How Pharmaceutical Meds Can Mess Up Starting Carnivore

(Jon H ) #1

As I was on antipsychotics, (which turned out I was just really smart with high IQ and not psychotic) the meds made me gain 20 pounds, sleep 16 hours a day, etc. They totally messed up my food absorption. So when I did carnivores diet I was hardly seeing any results, even 2 months after stopping the meds. Well I’m starting to see tons of benefits now after 6 months of stopping, so keep in mind for many who don’t see the benefits, the “meds” (drugs) gotta be out of your system.

(Bob M) #2

I thought this was interesting about tapering these types of drugs:

He has a website too.

I listened to the above podcast in my car. They discuss a graph, and I think it’s this one:

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If you’re cutting your 10mg pill into 5mg, you’ve barely touched the actual effect.

I also listened to another podcast where I believe a woman took her son off drugs like these, and she said it took a really long time – months – for him to actually get back to normal. This seems to be what you experienced too.

(Peter - Don't Fear the Fat ) #3

Somebody on here once said, ‘When you remove carbs from your diet, your body knows what to do’. I wonder if the same could be said for meds?

(Robin) #4

Peter, I believe there are certainly some conditions that can be cured with this diet. But then I also believe some things need the drugs… like my blood thinner.

(Peter - Don't Fear the Fat ) #5

Ah. very good point. There’s some things I really shouldn’t mess with.

(Doug) #6

‘Pharisaical’ = great word. I don’t recall even seeing it before.

Drugs… There is such a continuum there. Some are literally keeping people alive; without them they would die. And some drugs are ‘overprescribed’ and some doctors have a tendency to do so. And - in the U.S. anyway - some doctors literally prescribe because they get extra money for doing so. The more they prescribe, the more money they get.

(Edith) #7

I think that’s only true to a certain extent. If a drug supplies something, say hormone X, that the body also supplies, the body will stop making hormone X since the drug is providing it instead. The body is very good at not making something if it doesn’t have to. You need to taper so that as you take less and less of the hormone X medication, your body can ramp up its own production of it. Otherwise, you could be left with a hormone X deficiency. Depending upon what it’s use is, having a sudden deficiency could cause serious problems, particularly with brain meds for example.

(KM) #8

yes … except it means literally having to do with state of mind of the Pharisees, or loosely translated as hypocritical or holier-than-thou. Great teaching moment :flushed: but I think the OP might have been looking for “pharmaceutical”?

(Doug) #9

I was thinking it fit all right - doctors having prescribed drugs ‘because that’s what we do in such cases’ rather than getting to the real cause, with Pharisees being concerned with pomp and ceremony rather than the true spirit.

(KM) #10

I like that interpretation.:slightly_smiling_face:

(Peter - Don't Fear the Fat ) #11

Yes, this was kinda my point. If meds are effecting the route cause of a condition, like in the blood thinner example, all well and good. It’s the meds that are only treating the symptoms, are they more of an issue?

(Bob M) #12

This is one of my main problems with statins. The thing they are (ostensibly) addressing is LDL. But that level does in no way indicate what your actual atherosclerosis is. You need something like a CAC scan or CCTA for that, with CAC scan being cheaper and easier to get. Why not do that instead?

With mental “illness”, it’s a lot more difficult, because I’m of the opinion that no one understands those. My daughter has been on so many of these drugs, and nothing has worked. (Though she is a special case because we think her mental “issues” are caused by bacteria.)