Some random googling, the rate of death by heart disease in Denmark is approximately half that of cancer. Of course this could simply speak to a severe carcinogenic element, but combined with the long lifespan it seems to me this is supportive of the idea that cheese is not the enemy, at least in this genetic population.
How do we stop this nonsense?
ctviggen
(Bob M)
#22
The French have all kinds of exceptions to the ārulesā. They eat a lot of cheese, dairy (cream in particular), which have lots of saturated fat; eat bread, desserts, meats, etc. Smoke a lot too.
On this list, France is number 1:
Denmark is not on the list though. In fact, with a brief search, I canāt find anything about cheese intake in Denmark, though did find some lists of cheeses to try if I ever get there. 
Unfortunately, I found this from the Danish Veterinary and Food Administration:
Thatās too bad.
Just_Juju
#23
Itās unreal and just a reflection of what is happening world wide, being pushed by a centralized organization and āstakeholdersā
Itās absolutely ridiculous to mix up climate initiatives with diets. 
ctviggen
(Bob M)
#24
Yeah, thereās a lack of evidence for all of that.
And, after listening to quite a few podcasts about beef in particular, I think ruminants like cows protect the planet, not destroy it.
Itās interesting that they admit there are stakeholders. In the US, they hide those at least.
kib1
(KM)
#25
Personally Iād be less alarmed or annoyed by this if proven methodologies for pasturing cows responsibly were exempted. Itās not the cows, itās the overcrowding and the inappropriate feeding that cause the issues. And Iām going to say it again. I want to see proof that cows produce more methane on the whole than the carb-addicted human population.
VirginiaEdie
(Edith)
#26
Iām wondering why these are lumped in together? I donāt think I want veterinarians advising what humans should be eating. 
PaulL
(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?)
#27
They might do a better job than doctors!
ctviggen
(Bob M)
#30
I thought that was weird too. But we have the Food and Drug Administration (FDA), which oddly handles food policy (tying it to drugs?), instead of the Department of Agriculture, where food seems to fit.
Geezy56
(Geoffrey)
#31
Everyone just needs to leave my cows alone or Iāll have them fart in your general direction. 
ctviggen
(Bob M)
#33
Sorry. Cheese consumption. Annual per capita pounds of cheese. 2.5 ounces of cheese per day per person per year. Not that much, really.
ctviggen
(Bob M)
#38
Red wine is one of those (many) things that confuse me, Itās actually in some versions of the Mediterranean Diet, but not in others. Like this, for instance:
But thereās recently some arguments there shouldnāt be red wine in the Med Diet:
Of course, that article makes little sense, as itās all based on epidemiology and they are saying people under 35 shouldnāt drink wine while people over should. Ah, what?
But they may actually run an RCT:
That would be interesting.
CFLBob
(Central Florida Bob )
#39
Considering the shoreline of the Mediterranean is nearly 29,000 miles long and covers old cultures from north Africa, east through Israel, Turkey, Greece, and the Adriatic countries, then all the way back west to Spain, itās hard for me to imagine thereās just one Mediterranean diet. How much do Libyans eat like Italians or Cypriots after all? When I read The Big Fat Surprise, (Nina Teicholzā big seller) I wasnāt surprised to find that the whole concept was a plot by olive oil sellers to not get excluded from the āhealthy foodsā craze. Figuratively, āletās have a conference and feed the doctors with the best tasting food we can find, then tell them itās the Mediterranean way of eating!ā
The only thing I have absolute faith in is the ability of epidemiologists to mess up an RCT.
Shinita
#40
Itās just a name like paleo diet. Of course it doesnāt mean people eat/ate like that in some area or time periodā¦
Probably there is some vague connection with some true Mediterranean diets and thatās itā¦? Never was particularly interested in The Mediterrean diet, I know it has some nice points vs the usual awful modern dietsā¦ It surely works for some and not at all for others.
I am all for individual diets, fine tuned to the needs, desires, circumstances etc. of the one in question. Itās not simple at all but some simple general advice can seriously damage someone even if itās great for manyā¦
I like some very low-carb vaguely Hungarian style diet even I donāt know about it being some specific one 
I definitely depend on pork WAY more than the average Hungarians but eat about as much fat. Pork, fat, lots of sour cream and quark, paprika, some fowls, some fish and not caring about dietary guides, soups regularlyā¦ Pretty much Hungarian, just without most of the carbs! (And without much booze. I probably drink less alcohol than the average 15-17 years old, not like I have data about them but some of them drink very heavily and surely most of the others drink too. Is it part of the diet? Must be as it brings caloriesā¦)