Just another example of how they are full steam ahead in limiting our access to meat.
How do we stop this nonsense?
SomeGuy
(Joey)
#2
Can’t read the article (the site apparent;y doesn’t like my feelings about cookies/tracking) but based on the headline and similar coverage I’ve seen lately, stopping this nonsense will be difficult.
My sad prediction is that it’s going to get worse before it gets worse. 
kib1
(KM)
#3
IMO the issue is that this has become almost a religion. It doesn’t matter what the science says any more, “everyone knows” all these “facts” and they’ve moved on, to applying their genius to solving these problems as the dogma define them.
I was thinking about that this morning. It’s hard to find a purpose and make anything better in a world where disastrous objectives are already set in stone.
ETA: In truth, I’ve stopped trying to stop the nonsense and decided to live with my privilege, which gives me access to what I want even if other people would prefer I didn’t have it. I don’t like that at all, but it’s better than the alternative (the alternative being not only not being Queen, but not even being Queen of my own refrigerator.)
lfod14
#4
I’m not too worried about some goofball European “country” with the population of a medium sized CITY from dictating too much… Let them screw themselves over, see how long that works out for them.
Just_Juju
#6
Sorry Joey I’ll paste it below (the first link is to a Denmark article):
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“We have succeeded in landing a compromise on a CO2 tax, which lays the groundwork for a restructured food industry -– also on the other side of 2030,” the head of The Danish Society for Nature Conservation, Maria Reumert Gjerding said after the talks in which they took part.
Farmers will pay on average $115 per cow yearly, starting in 2030, increasing to about $280 per cow yearly by 2035.
Denmark has about 1.5 million cows. What will this tax do Denmark’s cattle industry and to the cost of meat and dairy products?
Given the huge cost of taxes to be levied, Denmark’s farmers won’t be able to compete with other producers of meat and dairy so they will have to shut down. Then other nations will impose similar taxes, gradually shutting down more and more farms. The ones left will be able to raise their prices so high we can’t afford to buy the little meat and dairy left.
And all because cows belch methane, which could be stopped by adjusting their feed, which I wrote about last year.
Save the planet by getting rid of cows? Yet cows are said to be needed to make barren land useful—because land too poor for growing crops can still support cows, sheep, goats. And the excreta from the cows fertilizes the land, while their hooves embed grasses in the dirt and enrich the soil.
We had to destroy this planet in order to save it! [An old Vietnam war saying in which “village” is replaced by “planet.”]
Here is an earlier post in which I discussed the methane scam. For some reason substack and google are not finding the rest of my posts on this subject. But here is a USDA post on the value of seaweed for ending 82% of the the methane belches. Denmark is a peninsula surrounded by water—I bet they have a lot of useful seaweed.
In Germany they attacked the farmers by raising the price of energy. In the Netherlands it was the nitrogen in the cows’ excreta, it was the need for land for homes, but whatever it was, the only solution was getting rid of cows—and preventing farmers from farming in other EU countries.
Door to Freedom and Children’s Health Defense will host our second Symposium on the Attack on Food and Agriculture on September 7 and most likely a second day, as there is a lot to say. Stay tuned.
SomeGuy
(Joey)
#7
Thx. One could make a snide crack about Danish preferring their pastries, but I’ll avoid such an obvious swipe. 
OldDoug
(Doug)
#9
I think that’s just insanity. I also figure there will be some serious pushback against such things, varying by location. Good grief - what is a cow tax really going to do, as far as being beneficial? If I was one of those farmers, I’d be enraged, feeling that at best the cow tax is symbolic nonsense, while in other countries no measures are being taken at all, essentially.
Our world is going to add on another 2 billion people really quickly, and the effects of that alone are going to be profound.
PaulL
(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?)
#10
Surely, and the way things are going, it appears we are setting ourselves up for a large-scale die-off.
Of course, population control appeals to the rich, and they think they can insulate themselves from the massive economic, political, and social disruption. I seriously doubt, however, that they’ve thought things all the way through. 
lfod14
#11
True, but those vocal minority idiots are at least treated as such here. They never get any ground, nor will they. Look at the lengths they go to, I think if anything their lab experiments have probably got more people eating meat again than anything.
Or then you have King Gates with all his money being thrown around and yet people still haven’t stopped taking pics of him at real burget joints. Its all virtue signalling the 1%. Now there’s States banning lab meat, wish mine was one, never will be if I had to guess, living next door to DC comes with downsides but as long as others follow, we’ll be good in the end.
Look at all the crap used to scare people awaybfrom keto when it hit fad status, and it only made more people do it!
I think a huge advantage with the US is we inherently don’t trust our Govt and once they try to force us to do something, we do the opposite, in Europe, people (I know, not all) like the govt controlling everything.
kib1
(KM)
#13
Well that’s super weird, when I quote, it converts the Danish flag to a second heart.
VirginiaEdie
(Edith)
#14
The Dutch people have the tallest average height in the world. When they start shrinking due to lack of quality protein, do you think they’ll realize why?
Just_Juju
#15
I agree and I love my countrymen so much when they stand up for what is right without selfish financial ambition. And it’s heartwarming to see how many are starting to get their news from uncompromised sources, checking the facts, seeing how things don’t add up, and are boldly speaking out. It’s encouraging to see more and more people risking their careers or popularity to do what’s right. Certainly not nearly enough of us by any means, but it’s starting. And with each new brave citizen another becomes braver too. Speaking up matters.
We have all been too lax and truly believed nobody could really reach into our private lives. But it’s clear now how wrong we were.
Our community already has experience in this wake up. 
We have learned how to discern and research. But when there’s even a trickle of potential for organizations like WEF, Gates Foundation, and the like to create a power vacuum that impacts our lives, and potentially threatens my meat consumption, I proudly don my armor and come charging in. I will fiercely fight against anyone believing they need to limit livestock, and I will risk everything to squash that nonsense.
I’m so thankful to the states that are banning lab meat so far. But they need to go a step further and offer alternative solutions to these perceived problems with food production. Banning nonsense first, then exposing corruption, then actually using some common sense and decency in problem solving.
SomeGuy
(Joey)
#17
Then again, we have good reason, having learned from experience. With this in mind, it’s unclear how huge an advantage we have. 
ctviggen
(Bob M)
#18
On a completely different subject, I remember reading a study about the biome where they gave the example that the Danish had “bad” microbes in their biome, which I think was theorized being due to high cheese intake. Then I went and looked at length of life and other metrics for the Danish, and realized that it can’t be a “bad” microbe if they are living that long with those metrics.
It was about that time I gave up on trying to figure out the biome.
