How bad is peanut butter WITH partially hydrogenated vegetable oil?

(Sarah Herlihy) #13

I obviously cannot read and just got excited! Hahahahhaa. Apologies.

(Ross) #14

Here is a helpful link on oils that are OK to use on a Keto diet per Dr. Noakes.

Oils and Fats - which to avoid and which to use, not only for Banting, but for life.

(Ross) #15

Will the new Dietary Guidelines make us even fatter?

Further, Dr, Eades has a bit of a theory that these oils may be the real driver of the obesity epidemic (drive metabolic damage)…or at least it took the double whammy of changing over to these industrial hydrogenated oils AND the increase in cabs in the diet…carbs alone prob wouldn’t produce the observed results.

IIRC these hydrogenated oils were initially created for industrial wax production and not intended for human consumption.

If it were me, I’d run the other way. I am making an effort to avoid such oils at all costs even when rarely eating out at a restaurant…and that is sadly difficult to do.

(Daniel Crispin) #16

Ok, so to make peanut butter all I have to do is shove peanuts in a food processor? I have to try that!

The question I have is this… on what do you eat it? Can’t eat bread, so what is a good item to put the peanut butter on? Not gonna eat it by the tablespoon, I really doubt I would enjoy that.

Also, is the same true for all nuts? Simply shove almonds or cashew in a food processor and blend until has has the right consistency?

Why would you remove the peanut oil and replace it with coconut oil? Is peanut oil bad for you?

Very interesting topic!

(Allie) #17

Any partially hydrogenated oils should be avoided.
I get PB that is 100% peanuts, occasionally one with added salt too.

(Sheri Knauer) #18

Ive always been tempted to bring my unopened jars of PB to my local home improvement/paint stores and ask them to put them in the paint mixing machine for a minute or two, lol.

(Damon Chance) #19

I definitely eat it by the tablespoon… You could also try some of the low carb tortilla recipes or mug bread recipes. I have a jar that is mine only and I eat right out of it… The res t of the family has a separate jar… they eat it on bread (for now).

I haven’t made any nut butters but I think I Will try it this week at some point. Pecan butter sounds awesome.

#20

I heard on the Ketovangelist podcast that peanut butter is a hot topic in the keto world. Basically, some think peanuts are the devil and some people eat them daily with no issues. I’ve been using almond butter for this reason but I wonder if using peanut butter would be ok? I guess I’ll have to try it and see how I react.

(Damon Chance) #21

I listened to that podcast and I don’t get the controversy. It’s not paleo for whatever reason but ketogenic foods are basically a function of macros and peanut butter is only marginally higher carbs than almond butter… like 1 or 2 net carbs.

I’m not that dogmatic I guess.

#22

I’m not dogmatic either, I was just curious. I have noticed that regardless of the macronutrient content of a food, there are inflammation factors to consider. Dairy being one of those for me. But I might give peanut butter a try soon, maybe just in fat bombs to start. The price is attractive if nothing else.

(Damon Chance) #23

What would be a marker for you If it were causing inflammation?

(Athena) #24

@Calendyr, I have use Trader Joe’s creamy peanut putter in a couple of recipes. The only ingredients in it are peanuts and salt.

(Duncan Kerridge) #25

I remember a Keto Talk episode from a while ago which mentioned some people have trouble staying in ketosis eating peanuts because of the way they metabolise the protein arginine which peanuts are high in (turkey is also high in arginine). Doesn’t seem to apply to me, I just can’t stop stuffing them until the bag is gone.

#26

I suspect everyone is different but I look for GI issues, bloating, stiffness and just overall fatigue. If I don’t feel 100% after eating I know something I consumed has been hard on my system.

(Allie) #27

I had to stop my daily PB habit as I developed intolerance symptoms (digestive upsets) then noticed my blood ketone levels much increased too. I hadn’t even realised they were being affected until then.

(Mark Rhodes) #28

I think the idea that peanuts are legumes and thus, immediately, inflammatory is the theory on Brian’s site. I stopped listening because of the keto nazis that follow. I am not a IFYM person but I do believe in individualized programs. My wife cannot have many artificial sweeteners ( which we were able to test for, as you know from a different post :wink:) while I respond that way to xylitol, which I still have when I get a massive sweet tooth. That once in a while sweet is so strong as to kill the craving but not enough of a spike to create further cravings.

(Keto in Katy) #29

A couple of links at DietDoctor.com that might be helpful.

(Regina M.) #30

I’m not vegetarian, but I love vegetables. Leafy greens are your salvation and there are so many varieties. The various kinds of mustard greens like broccoli raab, komatsuna, and hon tsai tai and many other Asian greens including easily available ones like bok choy , have about 1-1.5 net carbs per 100g. You can eat pounds a day and I have. They are also very easy to grow. Radishes have only about 2 net carbs per 100g and are extremely delicious when cooked whether in stews or roasted/fried like a potato. I just tried the canned Eden black soybeans two days ago. They are bland but take spices well. They only have 1 net carb per serving.

(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #31

Consumer Report once estimated that around 90% of all peanut butter consumed in the United States was eaten from the jar with a spoon. . . :bacon: :laughing:

(Allie) #32

Yep. I used to measure out a small tub each day and have it as breakfast at work.