How bad is peanut butter WITH partially hydrogenated vegetable oil?


(Damon Chance) #21

I listened to that podcast and I don’t get the controversy. It’s not paleo for whatever reason but ketogenic foods are basically a function of macros and peanut butter is only marginally higher carbs than almond butter… like 1 or 2 net carbs.

I’m not that dogmatic I guess.


#22

I’m not dogmatic either, I was just curious. I have noticed that regardless of the macronutrient content of a food, there are inflammation factors to consider. Dairy being one of those for me. But I might give peanut butter a try soon, maybe just in fat bombs to start. The price is attractive if nothing else.


(Damon Chance) #23

What would be a marker for you If it were causing inflammation?


(Athena) #24

@Calendyr, I have use Trader Joe’s creamy peanut putter in a couple of recipes. The only ingredients in it are peanuts and salt.


(Duncan Kerridge) #25

I remember a Keto Talk episode from a while ago which mentioned some people have trouble staying in ketosis eating peanuts because of the way they metabolise the protein arginine which peanuts are high in (turkey is also high in arginine). Doesn’t seem to apply to me, I just can’t stop stuffing them until the bag is gone.


#26

I suspect everyone is different but I look for GI issues, bloating, stiffness and just overall fatigue. If I don’t feel 100% after eating I know something I consumed has been hard on my system.


(Allie) #27

I had to stop my daily PB habit as I developed intolerance symptoms (digestive upsets) then noticed my blood ketone levels much increased too. I hadn’t even realised they were being affected until then.


(Mark Rhodes) #28

I think the idea that peanuts are legumes and thus, immediately, inflammatory is the theory on Brian’s site. I stopped listening because of the keto nazis that follow. I am not a IFYM person but I do believe in individualized programs. My wife cannot have many artificial sweeteners ( which we were able to test for, as you know from a different post :wink:) while I respond that way to xylitol, which I still have when I get a massive sweet tooth. That once in a while sweet is so strong as to kill the craving but not enough of a spike to create further cravings.


(Keto in Katy) #29

A couple of links at DietDoctor.com that might be helpful.


(Regina M.) #30

I’m not vegetarian, but I love vegetables. Leafy greens are your salvation and there are so many varieties. The various kinds of mustard greens like broccoli raab, komatsuna, and hon tsai tai and many other Asian greens including easily available ones like bok choy , have about 1-1.5 net carbs per 100g. You can eat pounds a day and I have. They are also very easy to grow. Radishes have only about 2 net carbs per 100g and are extremely delicious when cooked whether in stews or roasted/fried like a potato. I just tried the canned Eden black soybeans two days ago. They are bland but take spices well. They only have 1 net carb per serving.


(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #31

Consumer Report once estimated that around 90% of all peanut butter consumed in the United States was eaten from the jar with a spoon. . . :bacon: :laughing:


(Allie) #32

Yep. I used to measure out a small tub each day and have it as breakfast at work.


(Doug) #33

Ha! Yes, Damon, me too - heck, can eat the whole container…


(Damon Chance) #34

Lol yeah shame settles in around a half cup for me… when I look in the jar and notice i have made a sizable dent…


(Sarah Herlihy) #35

From the jar with a spoon is so my idea of heaven!!


(Daniel Crispin) #36

WoW! Hard to believe. I guess I am in the minority here LOL!


#37

I like apples and celery as substrates.


(Michelle) #38

Fox Hill Kitchens!!! You can toast some of their small buns and spread PB on that. yummy!! :smiley:

However, I currently have a PB addiction and I eat it straight from the jar… I keep promising myself I won’t buy it anymore, but my WF had it on sale, so bought 3 jars!!! eeks.


(Allie) #39

On keto?


#40

My definition of keto diet is based on outcome not macros. A keto diet is one that results in you being in ketosis. So yes, some folks can metabolize apples and be keto.