High sugar


(Bacon is a many-splendoured thing) #23

A better term than “physiological insulin resistance” is “glucose sparing.” It is a documented fact that people who have been ketotic well past the point of fat-adaptation generally see a modest rise in serum glucose, but without a corresponding rise in HbA1C. This appears to be perfectly normal and nothing to worry about. As already mentioned, it results from the fact that the muscle cells have fully adapted to metabolizing fatty acids and no longer need much glucose to fuel their activities, so they down-regulate their insulin receptors, apparently to spare the glucose the liver is producing for the cells that cannot do without it. Since gluconeogenesis is demand-driven, this rise in serum glucose is quite well-regulated and not a sign of incipient diabetes.

The late Dr. Joseph Kraft felt strongly that serum glucose was not a good measure of diabetes or even insulin resistance. His research strongly suggested that the pattern of the insulin response to ingesting glucose could indicate the beginnings of metabolic trouble as much as twenty years before serum glucose even begins to rise. Ivor Cummins and Dr. Gerber (among others) have done some presentations on Dr. Kraft’s data on YouTube (check the Fat Emperor and LCDU channels). The problem is that an oral glucose tolerance test is expensive and time-consuming, so it’s not likely to become the standard diagnostic test any time soon.


(Bunny) #24

Since the body already makes endogenous glucose why would we want to eat so much of it on purpose (reward centers of the brain of course) so why would there be a need for glucose tolerance test?

Let’s make the person eat all this sugary stuff and see how well they tolerate it, then we will send them on their way and wait for them to get diabetes?

It is kind of like preparing for a murder/suicide, let’s see how much sugar and processed food they can eat before their body starts shutting down?

It is like a dog chasing it’s own tail, WE ARE NOT going to address or prevent the cause; only treat the effect?

Would we call this caring about what we are doing or understanding why we are doing it?

Sounds more like population control and monetary gain rather than medical science?

Makes no sense?

References:

  1. “…Two major metabolic mechanisms are responsible for glucose utilization and therefore determine glucose tolerance: glucose storage and glucose oxidation. After glucose ingestion, a major part of glucose is retained in the liver where it is used for glycogen synthesis and triglyceride formation [4], A small fraction serves to replace glucose produced by the liver in the basal state, while another rather small fraction is oxidized at the periphery in response to the glucose load. …More

(Candy Lind) #25

WHOA. Statins are for cholesterol. He’s not giving you a statin for blood sugar, he’s giving it to you to lower cholesterol. YOU SHOULD REFUSE IT.

What he failed to tell you - statins have the side-effect of raising your blood sugar! How is that supposed to be good for you?

One other thing. Two weeks on keto might lower your fasting blood sugar a bit, but you should give it more like 3 months to see its real benefits. You will not be sorry you did.

DON’T. Read up-to-date scientific info here in the science section about cholesterol & statins.

Start a keto way of life and you’ll soon be back in the normal blood sugar range. We’re here to give each other information & support - and lucky you, you are now one of us! :+1: KCKO.


(mole person) #26

This is one of those cases where giving sources is difficult. There are plenty of explanations out there of physiologic insulin resistance, or glucose sparing, but they aren’t much different than what Paul and I have given above, and anything deeper gets into some very thorny biochemistry that most will not be able to make heads or tails of. I will link this, which goes somewhat deeper but will still be fairly comprehensible to many on this forum. For those that want to go deeper still, this paper has several references that may be of interest.

https://www.physiology.org/doi/full/10.1152/ajpendo.00580.2013

I hope this helps.