Fasting and Carnivore


(Ilana Rose) #21

The induction phase for Carnivore is a month or longer for many people. A week isn’t a good trial as your body might be freaked out much like at the start of keto.


#22

I totally prefer Carnivore to Keto. Simple as can be. Who doesn’t love meat. Eggs. Bacon. Ground Chuck burgers. I’ve gone from IF, to Keto, to Carnivore still trying to find the solution to trimming down a 50 year old body that’s been abused by food in all it’s forms! :smiley:


#23

So glad to hear that. Sounds like cutting out dairy may be the key for me.


(George) #24

Freaked out how? If it’s just an odd feeling, then I can handle it and will push through, but if I end up not losing or even gaining weight, then I’ll freak out LOL, mainly because I want to keep on track with the timeline I set for myself. I just want to see what if any changes happen when I cut out the last few carbs I currently consume


(Ilana Rose) #25

The same sorts of issues people have during keto induction. Fatigue, brain fog, ravenous hunger, diarrhea, constipation, and yes, even weight gain sometimes. It’s like keto, not like an egg fast. A week may tell you nothing about whether it’ll help you in the long term.


(George) #26

Now that I think about it, I did do 5 days that were pretty close to carni (with the exception of a TINY bit of avocado here and there, and some feta cheese) just because I wanted to empty out what I had in the fridge, so beef, bacon, sausage, and eggs covered most of my plate, plus a 48 hour fast right after and I felt pretty good

When weigh in day came, I lost very little weight, but I also had MUCH larger portions than normal every day I ate. I extended the fast by 1 more day, and lost 3 lbs overnight (weird) LOL.


#27

What does a typical day of eating look like for you now?


(Ilana Rose) #28

I used to OMAD but since starting strict no dairy carnivore I’ve gone TMAD just to get in the required calories. Usually at my first meal I have something like fish or fried fat back. I’m using lunch as a time to get in various extra nutrients I’m worried might be lacking from straight muscle meat. At dinner I have one or more meats. Last night it was ribeye, chicken thighs, and sausage. I only ended up eating the ribeye though. the rest was leftover.

I am still having a single cup of coffee in the morning. That’s my only non carnivore element atm though. I expect to continue this for a while until I’m either convinced it is making a difference or it isn’t.


#29

So I did strict Carni for 16 days. I added in some cheese and salad vegetables, not much really, and seem to tolerate well. I lost 4 lbs during the two weeks.

I have since resumed 24 hour fasting x3 per week. So far I have not gained or lost, though I think clothes are looser.

I do think that to resume loss I will have to do another month total carni period with some 48 hour fasts. My current feeling is that the carni WOE is very beneficial and I am convinced that dairy really does hold me back.

Moving forward to lose my last 15 lbs I will focus on carni and sticking with a stricter fasting regime of the 36-48 hour level, as 24 hour fasts, essentially OMAD, doesn’t really work on the body as well.


(Norma Laming) #30

I’m finding a lack of satiety, too. After eating meat, I need to eat heavy cream / clotted cream to feel satiated. . I’m a bit disappointed about this as I’d like to be dairy free and I really want to stick at not eating plants for a while. I have beef marrow bones in the freezer and I am going to try eating the fat in those after eating meat. I really don’t fancy eating beef fat.


(George) #31

I started my little carnivore experiment yesterday. I was worried about the satiation thing too so I made ghee and used it with my meats to up the fat macros and I think that helped with satiation.


(Norma Laming) #32

I’ve realised that the meat I ate was mixed wild game: pigeon, venison, rabbit etc. Low fat and although I added butter that didn’t work. Traditionally people add bacon but I don’t like the saltiness of that. I think I’ll freeze the rest until I have some beef fat or marrow to eat with it.


#33

I am just in my day 17 on carnivore, no dairy but have butter. I have noticed that if I add extra fat to my meat I will definitely not be hungry very soon but if the meal is too lean (even some “leaner” ribeyes) I won’t feel satiated and want to eat more or get hungry sooner. But again, I’m only day 17. I now make sure to put a lot of fat on my plate with the meat like extra egg yolk, butter, melted tallow, some bacon or cold tallow. This works for me.


(Brian Ernst) #34

I’ve been on keto for several years, with small cheats, the last year being my most strict. I just started easing into carnivore 2 weeks ago and have been experiencing carnivore flu symptoms/carb withdrawal symptoms. That said, today was the first day I fasted for 24 hours, with a workout in the middle, and I could have kept going no problem but I had already bought a bunch of sashimi to eat.

From my brief excursion into carnivore: it’s faar easier to get into OMAD. I’ve been trying to get back into OMAD without success on Keto. But carnivore made that possible for me with ease. I’m planning on doing a 48 hour fast after tonight’s meal. Z


OMAD is probably easier for those with more fat to lose. Otherwise you need to make sure you’re eating enough protein, and moderate fat (if trying to lose fat off your body, as opposed to high fat), to get you through the next meal. Eat until you can’t take another look at your food. Don’t eat fast though, you’ll blow past your satiety point and feel gross. What kinds of meals are you doing?

If you can’t eat enough calories for OMAD, and are worried about dropping metabolism, that’s what feasting and fasting cycles are for. During the week I eat OMAD. During the weekend I ease up, either eat the whole day if I want (three meals), or just make sure to eat two loaded meals to get my metabolism up for the week. I just came off of a feasting weekend, and appetite was easy to control all day waiting for my one meal, even with a workout. Feasting fasting. Try it.