Fastest way back to ketosis?

#22

Iced coffee with a little half and half and a sweetener always knocks my hunger down. No effect on my ketones or glucose readings.

(LeeAnn Brooks) #25

Oh yeah, I do that too. But I’ve dine that all along, so I know that’s not what’s keeping my ketones low.
M cravings are a bit more intense than the dark chocolate can compensate for.

(Lonnie Hedley) #26

I’ve been having 90 second chocolate cake daily. After doing this for a week I’ve realized my cravings aren’t for something sweet and chocolatey, but instead for the dopamine/endorphin rush that sugar provides.

(Consensus is Politics) #27

There is something else you can do for those sweet cravings. I’m at a loss to what this is called. It’s similar to “gate theory”. Gate theory being that trick you use on your body when you have an itch under a cast, let’s say on your elbow, you don’t want to stick anything under the cast to scratch it, less you create an infection under the cast. So you simply scratch the same place on the other elbow.

The similarity to this works in this fashion… you are craving something sweet. So you drink a Diet Coke. Diet Coke (usually) is high is sodium. So instead of drinking a Diet Coke, just take some extra salt. Your body reacts to the salt similarly to the sweet craving. Yeah, I guess it’s a placebo effect, or maybe a type of conditioning. Like Pavlov’s dog. The body’s reaction to the sweets remembers the presence of the sodium as well. I beleive this is the same process that can cause an insulin spike with many sweeteners, simply by them being sweet. Creating a preemptive release of insulin, because the body remembers tasting sweet means incoming sugar.

Sorry I’m not up on the terminology for this stuff. But if you can forgive my ramblings about it, it might make some sense. Of course, it’s just theories, and I for one don’t seem to have reactions to placebo effect. Maybe this is useful, maybe not. But there it is. :thinking:

(the cheater) #28

When I cheat, I usually fast the next day. When I don’t fast, I immediately go back to eating keto/IF the next day. Either way is fine. I don’t have any issue getting right back to keto. I don’t measure ketones anymore, since they really don’t mean anything. Your “friend” will be fine :smiley:

(LeeAnn Brooks) #29

I have gone back to eating Keto - for a whole week.

Today was the first day I felt right again. And I know everyone says not to rely on the sticks, but I always tested high before, so I have been checking out of curriosity. All day today I felt better. Checked my ketones and sure enough, they are rebounding.

But if it took me a full week to feel back on track, it’s all the more encouragement I need to bipass any “cheat” days in the future.

(Empress of the Unexpected) #30

Your ketones are rebounding? Awww, I’m envious. My ketones are still using a cane :rofl: But glad to hear it!

(LeeAnn Brooks) #31

And I still think it just means you’re more fat adapted than me and burning all yours away.

The fact that it took me a week to rebound after 2 incidents of cheating within 24 hours of each other confirms my theory that although I am fat adapted, it’s still new for my body and easily thrown off.

(Empress of the Unexpected) #32

Don’t believe I’m fat adapted because I still eat three times a day. BUT, having said that, I feel way better, and there is no snacking involved. I didn’t eat that badly before, no sweets, an occasional muffin, etc., but I ate all day. Then got full and skipped dinner. Now I eat all the right things three times a day and feel great. Just not even thinking about any kind of fast that this point. I can imagine not snacking, but can’t imagine skipping a meal. though sometimes, breakfast does come 16 hours after dinner.

(Empress of the Unexpected) #33

Let me rephrase that. I will officially stop being St. Regina. By occasional muffin, I really mean that “on occasion” I could down 5 Carl’s Junior bacon muffins in one sitting. I always thought I was okay because I didn’t like sweets and so forth. I have learned so much on this forum. I didn’t even know that every time you eat your insulin spikes. Never too late to get educated!

#35

@Anniegirl9 I read your posts and feel like I am going through all the same things (except I don’t exercise nearly as much as you do!).

Same thing- one slip up last week (have been super good for three months), and all my cravings have come back. It’s terrible. I was so happy to have hunger under control, but all I can think about is large slabs of sourdough with butter. It’s torture.

The most I san manage at present is 16:8 IF, and before I was doing 24 hours no problem. I am a bit disappointed in myself, but hey, KCKO. Glad to see it isn’t just me though!?

(LeeAnn Brooks) #36

Well, I went all day yesterday with no Diet Coke! Yay!!

But I did gorge on peanut butter. All natural of course.

I’m blaming my monthly visitor on that one.

Thing is, I actually feel better this morning than I have in a week. Yes, the scale went up, but only .4 pounds. And I’m determined to get back to my IF schedule today. I haven’t been able to skip a meal this whole week do to the hunger issues.

(Terence Dean) #37

Welcome back commander, beam her up Scotty, there’s Klingons on the starboard bow.

All aboard the starship Ketoprise! :star:

(Larsen) #38

AFAK the fastest way is fasting, and dry fasting should be even faster (3x) than water fasting.

(Lonnie Hedley) #39

Fastest way is exogenous ketones. Within a few hours you’ll be pissing out expensive pee. BUT, your strips will change colors!!! :joy::rofl::joy::rofl:

(Terence Dean) #40

I just read a thread that may be helpful on this topic:

The video posted on the page by Dr. Phinney was talking about a particular study which was very interesting but to your topic, he talks about falling out of Ketosis, around the 41 minute mark. The binge on carbs or sugars for someone who is Keto adapted creates a “metabolic emergency”, feeling physically lousy goes with the territory. He says it can take a couple days to get back to feeling fine, as you have done but he goes on to say that, lapses like that also conditions you to avoid falling off the wagon in the future. Apparently you feel so lousy that you don’t really want to feel that way and will naturally avoid binges. I’m not so sure about that last point because some people never learn from their mistakes

(Lonnie Hedley) #41

MCT enema. 40% of the time, it works EVERY time.

(Syeda) #42

I think drinking mct oil would help increase ketone agains so that would be a boost

(Lonnie Hedley) #43

Wrong hole. Gets right to the bloodstream the other way.

(Jeremy Wheatley) #44

I eat up to six times a day 3 meals with snacks in between. For the longest time I wondered if I was really in ketosis because the pee strips never read past trace… recently measured blood ketones and found out they were a solid 4.0 mmol… so it just depends on the person and like we discussed elsewhere, women are especially different… :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye::stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye::stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye: