Family sabotage


(Karla Sykes) #1

Sometimes I feel like family and friends are happy when you fall off the wagon and start eating carbohydrates like cookies with them. They don’t remind you how much weight loss and maybe you should be going back to the way you eat. I hear statements all the time like that is so unrealistic to you that way or that’s weird to cut out all of the sweets but yet diabetes and my family is not weird it’s just calling. I don’t want diabetes nor do I want to be diagnosed with it. So nowadays when people are eating lots of sweets or something like that I simply walked out the room and I don’t be around people who don’t support my vision or goal of the ketogenic diet. This is not so much of a diet for me this is a lifestyle this is just the way I live! I don’t know why family and friends continue to want me to engage sweets with them. What does it matter if I go eat sweets with them? Why is it such a big deal? How do you guys still with sabotagers? You ever notice when you start eating healthy and at work somebody’s always offering something whereas before nobody else did that? Some people were looking at me at work and said you’re pouring olive oil and eating Himalayan pink salt over your garden salad just a little I add it but they were dousing their salad with a ton of fat-free dressing. You know what happens when they take the fat out of food they add sugar and salt to make it taste good. But yet my way of eating my salad was too fat me but their way a fat-free salad dressing with all that sugar and salt was fantastically good. Interesting🤔


(Full Metal KETO AF) #2

I have only had one person do that to me and of course alcohol was involved. I just do what I want to do, I don’t cater to other people’s need to see me eat some fruit or have some candy or something. If I want to taste it I will, often they will shut up. If I don’t I just say no thanks. But I have good control and won’t go on a binge. Usually I have just went, meh…what did I see in that before. Particularly with regular ice cream with tons of sugar in it. Or something like a peanut butter cup. Way too sweet now. :cowboy_hat_face:


(Kristen Ann) #3

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(K-9 Handler/Trainer, PSD/EP Specialist, Veteran) #4

A lot of my fam are like crabs in a bucket. When they see you escaping, they all hold on and try their damndest to pull you back in.
People who despise themselves for one reason or another cannot stand to see someone succeeding where they are failing.
I realize the cynicism is strong in my words… but the reality is real, and sugar coating can make it worse. Figuratively and literally.


(Karla Sykes) #5

I totally agree. When my family said are you starting that weird way of eating you know you gain all that weight back? I said yes because I started eating the way I used to. They said oh well that’s just a fad diet. I tried to explain to him it’s not a diet it’s a lifestyle but it’s futile. In the future I will just do my thing with no explanation


(Susan) #6

My family telling me I won’t succeed or will just gain it all back is making me more determined to stay Keto forever and to lose the rest of this weight, and get in shape to show them that I will succeed and stay successful.


(K-9 Handler/Trainer, PSD/EP Specialist, Veteran) #7

Amen. ^5
Never ever give the naysayers, haters, and misinformed the satisfaction. Success is the best comeback in these situations.


(BuckRimfire) #8

I can think of several motivations:

  1. We like to be right and not wrong. If you are eating one diet and they’re eating another, they’ll think you’re implying that they are wrong and you are right, so they’ll want to get you to admit they are right by eating what they eat. Not a great motivation, but understandable.

  2. We like to protect our family and friends. There are over sixty years of crappy statements from authority figures claiming “low fat good, high fat bad.” Conventional wisdom is that eating fat is harmful, so they want to discourage that to “protect” you from “clogging your arteries.” Good motivation, just a bad misunderstanding of how the nutritional castle is built on sand.

  3. Conspiracy theories are fun and appealing, because we like to believe that we know something special that the dull-normals don’t know, but to those who don’t believe the conspiracy theory, it’s vexing that the “theorists” don’t realize that they’re being seduced by bullshit. So, it’s reasonable to want to talk them out of their delusion. If I knew someone who thought Kennedy was killed from the grassy knoll because a Carcano is not a good rifle (false, it’s a fine rifle), or who thought the Apollo landings were a hoax because the pictures from the moon looked funny (false, the photos make perfect sense, but the details of them are poorly understood by the critics), or who thought a fire of paper can’t melt steel, so the World Trade Center was collapsed by “micro-thermites” (false, the steel didn’t need to MELT, it only needed to get hot enough to undo the special heat-treatment that made it strong enough to hold up the building), then I’d want to convince them of the errors in their thinking. The difference is that Good Calories, Bad Calories has almost sixty PAGES of references to the scientific literature, with a dozen or two references per page, so our “conspiracy” actually has a mountain of real data to support it, not a few misconceptions that have been refuted a million times, like the ones I mentioned above. But your friends or even your doctor haven’t actually read that book and looked at those references, so they think YOU’RE the kook who doesn’t know what the facts are. Again, good motivation, bad execution!

How to deal with them? That’s tough. You can ask them to stop talking to you about food choices. Ask them to respect your choices and butt out. If they don’t, you can avoid them. Other than that, not much you can do other than just keep saying, “Thanks, but we’re both adults. I’ll do me and you do you, OK?” and don’t reach for the cookie.


(Karla Sykes) #9

I know that feeling all to well because I actually did that, lost 50lbs and gained it back


(Marianne) #10

I think this post will ring a bell for everyone here - universal problem.

I used to work with a woman who would notice by what I was eating/not eating, that I was dieting. We had a large candy jar in our office that was usually empty. Whenever I was dieting, she would fill that candy jar, which I found hard to stay away from in particularly weak moments (which were most times when I was on a conventional diet of eating stuff I didn’t like and calorie restricting). Couple pieces of that and I would feel like I wrecked the day and would be off and running.

Keto is different; it’s not a diet to me. From the start, I have felt full, completely satisfied, no cravings and crazy healthy. For those reasons, I don’t give a s*&^ what people say or don’t say to me about keto or how I eat. I really don’t. In fact, the more bizarre and adamant their comments are, the more humorous I find it. No need to debate, I just laugh (inwardly or outwardly). They can continue with their madness, seriously. I have seen the light and there is no looking back. The s&^% they eat is poison, even if some of them may be thinner.


(Marianne) #11

The really sad thing is, even many of our doctors can say that (my husband’s just did on Tuesday). Again, people’s words are just that - I really don’t care. They can show me a better way.


(Marianne) #12

Yeah, but you are here and on your way again!

:hugs:


(Karla Sykes) #13

I agree


(Susan) #14

I lost over 100 in 8 months back in 2002-2003 but not doing Keto. I am down 43 pounds (a bit more I think but not weighing atm) and I have 130 to go!


(Karla Sykes) #15

Congratulations


(Susan) #16

Thanks =). I still have tons to go, but we will all get there, encouraging each other on the way!!


(Mike Glasbrener) #17

Yeah part of the Keto way of life is psychological. Your relationships with others will change. No one really tells you this before you start. Food is a basis for many social interactions. It is quite freeing to no longer give a shit what other people think about you and your way of eating. When my wife makes pasta something for her and the kids I adapt and eat my own stuff. I have salami/s, cheeses, olive paste, leftover ribeye, eggs etc… I’m good. They know I’ll eat something else. Just like tonight. I recently started OMAD. I still go to lunch with friends for the social aspect. I’ll just get a glass of water wherever we go. No restaurant has ever cared at all. If I think they might care I tell them I already ate.

Bottom line… You are in control of what goes in your mouth. Own it! Don’t let anyone guilt trip you. If you do you own it not them unless they held you down and force fed you. They’ll get used to it. Give them time.


('Jackie P') #18

I have found that you just must not stress! Think of the cortisol!
I use humour, and agree with people. I say things like,
“I know it’s weird, but that’s just the kinda girl I am!”
“Yeah, but look how totally gorgeous I am looking today!”
“One carb could kill me dead”
“C’mon, wouldn’t you like my chips?”
Use your own personality. Don’t engage.
Above all don’t be lonely. Friendship and social engagement is a major health factor.


(Karla Sykes) #19

Wow I love it I am going to use that thanks a lot❤


(Rebecca 🌸 Frankenfluffy) #20

I have a problem sometimes with exactly this when eating out with my family.

‘Oh, I’ll have your roast potatoes/parsnips/carrots/Yorkshire pudding/chips/mash/pastry/garlic bread…’

If they had their way, my plate would just have the meat and broccoli (I’m not carnivore). Meat and broccoli are just fine, don’t get me wrong, but if I ordered the standard meal and give away the carbs I’d end up with a half-empty plate, when in fact I’d like enough to make a meal! When I keep control of the situation myself I order, for instance, ‘no potatoes/carrots/whatever, thanks, but could you please top my steak with a fried egg and serve enough cabbage or broccoli to fill the gap on my plate’.

When making menu changes I only ever request replacement items that I see elsewhere on the menu, so I know I’m not being too much bother to the kitchen. I’ve never had a problem with restaurant staff, only my family!

I denied my husband my chips the other week when ordering ham, eggs and chips - I asked for ham and three eggs, not two, no chips, and a load of mayo.

:grin: