Extended fasting = Diarrhea

(Bunny) #113

It’s been a long time since I seen Barbieri mentioned but here is what his pants or underwear looked like:

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Could prolly get three men into that?

(Rafael Quinones) #114

I was wearing size 58 pushing size 60. I might have been wearing those if I didn’t stop killing myself with food when I did.

#115

@Janie
No you don’t want to take immodium on a daily basis because it contains opiates. That is what slows down the intestines. I forget where I heard this, but it is a while back - and they aaid immodium abuse can lead to opiate addiction just like those pain killers.
the Metamucil I can get over here have carbs in the capsule. It says so on the box. And somebody wanted to sell me sugar free ketchup that was sweetened with dates!!! LOL

#116

Wow. You are superman. And I am afraid of fasting for one day!
I am doing IF for now and have lost 7 kilos in 3 months I guess I am taking it slow. Its good for me.

(Bob M) #117

Why the apple cider vinegar while fasting?

I’ve been taking AC vinegar again. Stopped taking it for a long time. It does help reduce blood sugar, though.

(Jane) #118

I know, right??? But I can’t have constant diarrhea so the only option I’ve found that works is Metamucil tablets. No carbs.

Folks will argue here you don’t need fiber. I do. Until my gut biome changes and I don’t know how to heal it right now. Tried many home remedies.

#119

@Janie
I bought a bag of psyllium husks (= metamucil without the capsule ) and take a half teaspoonful of that and wash it down with a few sips of water when I need to. It works wonders for stopping diarrhoea.The effect is like immediate. And I will keep doing so when I need to!

(Paulene ) #120

@Ralphie_Q Congratulations on your weight loss success. A mammoth effort, to say the least.

Hope you don’t mind me asking but did you get much in the way of excess skin from your weight loss with extended fasting?

(Bob M) #121

For me, fiber is bad for me. Really bad, with no benefits. I’ve tried resistant starch, too, with no benefits, only detriments. Multiple types of probiotics, including the so-called soil variety. No benefits I could tell.

The thing that worked for me is to eat little to no fiber.

That still doesn’t work for fasting, though, as my body shuts down for fasting and does not start up again until I eat. Great if you’re traveling somewhere (I don’t have to go to the bathroom), but heck after 4.5 days or so of fasting.

However, you could try this:

I tried this for 5-6 batches of yogurt and experienced no benefit. For instance, he says this will cause you to eat less. My yogurt maker made 6 ounce jars, and I would often have two of them at a time and still want more.

Nonetheless, it might help you and if you have a yogurt maker and a bit of extra cash to buy the probiotic, it’s not hard to make.

(Jane) #122

@ctviggen

Thanks, I am going to try this. I ordered some of the tablets and will use my sous vide to make some yogurt from them. I am also going to try taking the tablets themselves since I only need 10 of the 24-pack to make a batch and can use some of the current batch as starter for the next.

#123

Janie, Whoever says they don’t need fiber in their diet, more power to them.

All I have to say is I do. I eat lots of plant fiber, because I eat lots of vegetables while maintaining a fairly high level of Ketosis. I or my microbiome absolutely needs fiber.

Kale, different kinds of lettuce, broccoli, broccoli sprouts, cauliflower, collard and turnip greens I even eat radishes, carrots, without being thrown out of ketosis. I eat almonds, pecans, walnuts, macadamia nuts, sometimes brazil nuts, and pistachios. Although I have to control myself, because I can eat a lot of kcals of nuts, if I don’t watch myself I’ll mindlessly overeat them. Then I eat a lot avocados as well. …that’s just the top of my head. All good sources of fiber. I get 25-35 grams of fiber a day.

For microbiome I’m also a big believer in a little homemade Kombucha and Mother’s apple cider vinegar. I also like different fermented foods. I’m a big believer in gut health.

(Jane) #124

Made my first batch and had a small bowl this morning. I can taste the flavoring they use in the chewable tablets so bought some blueberries to mask the flavor. Maybe the next batch from starter will be better.

I’ll give it a couple of batches before deciding it is helping or not.

(Gary Hamilton) #125

In case you didn’t do this, you need to grind chia seeds (I use a coffee grinder) otherwise they just go right through you without giving you any benefits. I grind chia seeds and flax seeds and make a smoothie using hemp milk, vanilla and cinnamon using an electric hand blender. I make this 3-4 times a week. Yum! You can use other seeds to give you different tastes and textures.

(Layne Pachico) #127

Oh… em… gee!! I have been searching for the answer and this is it!! I’ve never had this watery stool issue when fasting for long periods but about 3 weeks ago began experiencing exactly what the OP described. 48 hours in and I’m having issues. For 3 consecutive 72hr fasts. I also started back on my daily magnesium 3 weeks ago!!

That was my “missing link” thank you!

I’m going to not use Magnesium my next fast and see if it resolves the issue. I’ll try to remember to report back! Maybe it’ll help the OP.

(Debra) #128

I realize this is an old forum but chiming in, in case this adds to any understanding. I had my gallbladder removed and fasted before and after the removal. Now I get diarrhea when I fast more than 24 hours. My natural path said it’s because the bile doesn’t bind (due to no gallbladder). She said to take tums while fasting. This has worked for me.

(Bob M) #129

Take turns? What does this mean?

I’ve had some success by eating way smaller meals initially, and – oddly – by taking probiotics during the fast. That seems to have lessened this, but I’ve only fasted 36 hours lately.

(Debra) #130

TUMS :grinning:

(Bob M) #131

Oh, my reading comprehension isn’t great!

#132

I suck with you because I read the same thing! Weird.

(PJ) #133

I worry that when I fast, I am starving my gut biome to death. They have to eat too. And I work hard to improve this, and make homemade kefir for the cause, for example. I am not doing longterm fasts anymore so it’s not an issue for me. But when I was, I always did refeed after a few broth servings, as a little bit of kefir and more over time, to try and restore some life in there.

I think it’s possible some people have some issues in their gut and mostly it’s stomped down from notice by the fact that there is so much more going on and going through. But put them in fasting mode and after a few days, all that’s going on in there is whatever issues they might have, which can even include little infections and such in the intestinal walls.

It probably wouldn’t be total fasting, but I think it’d be a good time to do some big doses of regular vitamin C. Not buffered forms, not liposomal forms, just the regular C, chewable is even better. I resolved some gut issues in the past with this approach.