Encouraging loved ones


#1

Hi All,

After 3 months of fully keto (Under 15g) I have been cruising along on very low carb for over a year now, most the weight I lost early on, I’ve kept off, and my endurance for long distance exercise has been really good. Low carb has been a good compromise for me, as there hasn’t been a need for my wife to change how she shops or cooks. I just selectively eat the low carb bits of food, without worrying too much about a couple grams here and there.

However… I may have missed an opportunity by not encouraging change in shopping and cooking habits. I feel like I may come across as the bad guy here - at least that’s how my wife makes me feel… But here goes.

Four years ago, my wife was diagnosed as pre-diabetic. The doctor advised her to include a lot of complex carbohydrates in her diet, and go low fat. In the past 4 weeks, a few things happened that have upset me a bit:

  1. She received a letter from NSW Health, asking her to go back in for a follow up, to make sure she hasn’t worsened. She ignored it, saying that if she gotten worse, then they will just tell her to follow the advice previously given, which she already is.

  2. She gained enough weight to cross over from the “Overweight” to “Obesity Class 1” classification. But she’s written that off as “low-risk” (which I guess is technically correct)

  3. We went for a walk from the car park to a beach, which was about 300m, and a 10m elevation. She was fine on the way down, but needed to take a break on the way up from being puffed. She’s always said that she wanted to be fit enough to bring up two boys, and yet she can’t walk 300m without a break.

The thing is, I think she’s in denial. She admits that she’s a little overweight, but says it’s no big deal despite me showing her several government health sites (Australian and US), that even losing the few kilos she thinks she needs to lose would still put her in the higher end of overweight - but hey, getting out of “Obesity Class 1” is totally a win. This is about health, not about appearance…

Because she’s quite short, she still wears 12-14 Australian clothing, as long as it’s loose and shapeless, and she uses that as “proof”, that she’s average sized. Because of the high carb diet, most of the weight has been deposited around her midsection - the most unhealthy type, and if she needs something to fit there, she’s more like size 18-20.

She swims once a week, but it’s only for 20 minutes, but she says that makes her “active”. Her cardiologist advised her to exercise regularly, but to avoid anything longer than a marathon, because of a minor heart defect. She uses that as an excuse to not do anything longer. She also has a low blood pressure, which she believes to be a sign of health, when it’s actually one of the symptoms of her heart defect.

I am concerned about her. I love her, and want her around in good health to enjoy life together for a long time to come. I encouraged her to do keto, but too much “mainstream” advice has convinced her that it’s an unhealthy fad diet.

I’ve always believed that if you want someone to do something, you need to lead by example, but I’ve been low carb for 15 months now, exercised at the gym 3 times a week, and during the cooler months run/cycled to work. All my indicators are in the healthy range, and aside from commenting that my six pack looks good, it’s made no difference to her.

I don’t want to bully or pressure her into doing something (and she wouldn’t anyway, it would just damage our marriage), but I don’t want to see her decay into poor health either.

I’m at a loss guys. Is this just something I need to accept? The only person you can change is you, kind of thing? I know everyone is different, but if anyone has had success encouraging their loved ones to take up a healthier lifestyle - especially against mainstream out of date advice, I would appreciate it.


(Full Metal KETO AF) #2

I have by example, which has not been working for you. You can have the best intentions in your heart but if someone isn’t ready for the message there’s not much you can do other than express your concerns about her health. It sounds like she’s deceiving herself in order to not face a real problem. Like an alcoholic sometimes people need to bottom out before they admit they need to change. Unfortunately that can be really dangerous when we’re talking about a bad diet. Damage is being done even if she doesn’t see it. :confused:


(squirrel-kissing paper tamer) #3

I agree with David. Pointing out her flaws or how she needs to change will frustrate you and push her further away. Your only option is lead by example and ask her to join you every chance you get. Does she want to take a stroll with you? Does she want to share this delicious steak with you? Can you go shopping with her and point out low carb alternatives that YOU would like to have in the house but that she’s welcome to share with you? Maybe you could offer to cook one or two nights a week to turn her on to low carb foods she might find easy to transition to. Is it as small as trying out a diet soda flavor she might like so she stops drinking the regular soda?

You can’t be pushy. Take it from a woman (and I’ll bet a man would feel the same) just because she loves you doesn’t mean she has to do what you think is best. Hopefully being supportive, encouraging, understanding and patient will win her over. Most importantly, tell her you love her for who she is and leave it at that.


(Jessica) #4

I wonder a bit if you seem to have done SO well (i.e. 6 pack) that she feels like she’ll never be that obsessed so “why try?” I still don’t know how you’d approach that, but I remember feeling like that. Like it takes superhero effort.

Would she watch The Magic Pill with you?? It was an eye opener for me and transitioned my parents from “we’ll try a little bit” to serious about their health.


(Janelle) #5

This is tough. I have a fraternal twin sister who has, from birth, been much bigger than I am. Granted, she’s 6ft tall (I used to be 5’10) but I’d say she’s well over 300lbs. Her cholesterol and blood pressure are normal, whereas mine are slightly high. We live across the country from one another but we talk and she does not want to discuss or think about keto. Today she said, “I know myself - I just couldn’t do it.” I tried to tell her that I mourned my whole grain bread and occasional Cheetos but that I barely miss them now. Nope.

On the other hand, my sweet husband watched for several years as I ate the same diet as him and I kept piling on the weight. We’re both keto now and he has out lost me by double. He’ll support whatever I want to do. Unfortunately - even when I was getting fatter. So, it’s tricky. Not sure how I would have taken pressure from him but if he had phrased it with caring, we could have gotten over it, I’m sure.


#6

Thanks for the replies so far. It seems like you guys can empathise with my situation.

I do feel like I am walking a very thin line between pointing out the evidence and criticising her, and between encouraging her and pressuring her.

I have an unscientifically supported (as far a I’ve seen anyway) theory, that even if I could get her to low enough carb, that she needs to draw some energy from fat, then going for walks/playing more actively with the boys will get her body to burn stored fat. As it is, I have noticed that after swimming, she tends to eat more, and eat more carb rich food, presumably (again, unsupported) to bring her blood sugar levels back up after exercising.

We have Netflix, so I might see if she’s willing to watch The Magic Pill next weekend… But I’m also aware there’s a lot of vegans who have made counter videos and articles, and actively promoted them, so they turn up first before anything supportive. I know she’ll google it after.


(Todd Allen) #7

I believed in healthy fruits and whole grains until I started checking my blood sugar with a finger prick testing kit. Then it was painfully obvious that mainstream dietary advice wasn’t working for me. My wife has borrowed my test kit and while her blood sugar wasn’t bad it provides hard evidence that it is better to cut back on the carbohydrates.


(Carl Keller) #8

I feel for you Sunder. You are in a tight spot. Your wife is addicted to carbs, she wants to bury her head in the sand to avoid seeing her own health problems and her doctors keep giving her medieval advice.

I think to avoid pointing the finger at her, you might try the approach of pointing to the success stories of others. And maybe you might have better success by writing her a letter so she can’t cut your off and not fully hear you out about how much you care and how you believe in your heart that she can change her life for the better. In closing I would say that I won’t haggle her about this any further if she please reads some of the stories of others whose lives were changed and saved by LCHF.

Beyond that, all you can do is be there for her when she asks for a hand up.

https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/keto/success-stories