Hey homies! Hope everyone out there is having a fabulous Hump Day. Got a snow day here in the dirty Jersey, so Im happy lol.
Anyway, question to anyone who knows, or has currently or formerly adhered to the Page 4 food list… is there a limit to butter? Maybe a dumb question but I see Creams and Oils, Mayo, but no mention of butter. Is there a limited butter quantity? Or am I a lil dopey? Wait. Dont answer that.
I’m not sure he has a limit. I think his advice is that fat and butter won’t spike your insulin, so it won’t make you hungry. You should eat to satisfaction. However, calories matter. So if you eat a stick of butter during the day, you’ll probably not lose much weight assuming you’re eating something with it. 
P.S. Love Eric Westman!
No butter limit, just normal eating to satiety rules.
I have been known to eat a pat of butter for lunch at my desk. It drew a crowd!
I have been told so many times that all the fat I eat will kill me by clogging my arteries. I have given up explaining the lack of science to the world. I just smile and say, I know, but I am just addicted to bacon. What am I to do? 
Is there a Bacon Anonymous?
ive always thought about how my grandparents (theyr hardcore old school) would react to such sight of me eating immense ammounts of butter and salt and while freaking out they’d attempt to explain how it will kill me if i keep eating. 
I’ve tried Kerrygold, and I can’t tell the difference. I buy the cheap [spoiler]shit[/spoiler]. It’s the best value calories in the store!
Alecmcq, How is your blood profile? I’m two months in, loving the results on the scale, mentally, emotionally, physically. Having blood work in a month and NERVOUS.
If you can delay, it is usually advised to wait six months into keto to have blood work done.
Thank you! I may ask my doc if we can wait a little longer on the lipid profile. My fasting blood sugar was 126 last November (one point into diabetes territory). My sugars a few weeks ago were around 100, so I’m eager to have this tested.
But it’s good to know where you started too as long as you don’t freak on the first test. It was actually blood work that brought me here in the first place and 5 months in it’s all fixed!
I started at 203 fasting BG, my recent HbA1c was excellent and included back to November so next time I expect stellar results.
Ah, blood profiles. I expect you are worried about “cholesterol” levels? I have researched this quite deeply as I have had very high LDL levels in the distant past and the drs wanted me on statins. I said no, and did a lot of research. My conclusion from that research is that the whole link between high “cholesterol” and heart disease is the biggest load of [spoiler]crap[/spoiler] known to man. The problem is that the Establishment is so deeply entrenched in the cenventional wisdom, that no contradictory evidence is allowed to enter the thinking. Go look at the evidence, and the fact is that the higher your cholesterol level, the lower your all cause mortality. That is what the studies and the data says. A very inconvenient truth.
My advice? Don’t have cholesterol tests done: they are irrelevant. If you do bloodwork, get an hba1c done and find out your fasting insulin level. They are MUCH better markers of real disease. Even better, if you are worried about heart disease, go have a calcium scan done. This measures the real disease directly, not some irrelevant supposed proxy for disease like LDL level.
Most important of all, never let a dr put you on statins. They are the greatest con in the current pharma world, making billions of profits from pseudo science. They are plain and simple bad for you and don’t help in any way.
[step off soapbox]
I had a full panel done a year ago. Total cholesterol: 208, HDL: 37, LDL: 139, Triglycerides: 158
In my last clinic note, my doctor stated that he wanted to talk to me about statins at my next visit in April. Do. Not. Want.
I love that picture. You look so presidential and totally reminds me of Dos Equis commercials: “I dont always eat butter, but when I do, it’s at my desk at work with a spoon and a 1lb block”.
Awesome lmao
Don’t let your doctor bully you into anything. It’s important to remember you always have the final say. If your doctor isn’t approving of keto consider looking for one that is. You should have medical support for your chosen lifestyle. My new doctor is keto supportive and was happy about the choice I had made before my first meeting with him. When I told him about my WOE he said, that’s the best possible thing you can do. I was really surprised because I expected disapproval.
Kerrygold is lovely. Im also a fan of Plugra, actually I love moat European butter better, I believe it has a higher milkfat %, and who wouldnt like more milkfats lol. Finlandia is good too. I think I know too much about butter. If theres such a thing lmao.
Hi,
All good questions. I followed it, actually the book version. I just had about 1 tablespoon Butter with veggies and a bit here and there.
A meal with some sort of meat and veggies with butter pretty well nails all the macros very nicely.
If you watch me eat you wouldn’t even know I was on keto, everything seems normal, except I am carefully avoiding all sugar, bread, rice, pasta, potatoes.
I have coffee with cream that might be the only hint
This is really important. We always put so much faith in our doctors, and think that they know what’s best for us. My sister is a dr, and have had long conversations on this. The plain fact is we are still in the dark on so much about our bodies. The spin is that we know what’s wrong and what to do about it. The truth is we know very little and our solutions are horribly blunt and often just don’t work.
In 100 or 200 years time, the doctors then will think of our current medical science in the same way we think about the Middle Age doctors with leeches and potions.
The only person in charge of your health is you. Use your dr as you would a consultant. Take his advice, but judge it critically, not blindly.
