@Goldengirl52:
I did <40g net carbs keto (and probably often 80-100g total but I never could care less about total, never seemed important in my case), it gave me fat adaptation but no noticeable benefits apart from that. Those came when I went way lower when I tried out carnivore. It’s not for everyone but sometimes mere ketosis just isn’t good enough.
Why is it scary? 
It was SURREAL to me for months (I went off a lot, I need time with these things) but I had a pretty nice variety and I do it on a budget so luxurious items like ruminants are very occasional and I barely can buy seafood, so little variety here (and most of that is very expensive). I totally use dairy though and lots of eggs. And even with off days, it’s another world than just doing keto. So trying it out may be worth it.
I can relate. I don’t care about my carbs on carnivore, if it’s 20g or more, so be it! It’s individual, I never experienced any problems with a higher number. I like not to go higher than this but only because most dairy easily triggers overeating fat (that’s my usual problem, I eat too much fat too often). I need them but in moderation. But I get a significant amount of carbs from my eggs and liver too and it’s never a problem. But other people aims for just a few carbs a day or less. Each to their own.
Carnivore can be done in various ways and if it’s still not enough, adding some carbs may be perfect for you… There are options and possibilities I can’t do proper carnivore for long but just doing what I can is way better than my original keto was. And I evolve anyway and that’s good.
I loved basically all vegs except the green ones (and some green ones too like peas).
And at some point I quite suddenly stopped liking them. So I never say never but I wouldn’t have forced them out of my life for sure. I tried out carnivore when I felt ready. I still kept 2 vegs that complimented my meat/egg dishes but I pretty much lost them eventually. The same with mushrooms. My problem area is fruits but I have chances in winter.
But my changes came slow… One big jump per in 4-5 years were enough for me. <20g carbs on my good days, well that took… 8 years from my high-carb times? So I understand you stick your current one. It may be perfect for you long term anyway…
No, I will be SUPER hungry and annoyed and fed up and eat whatever I find in the house… Maybe not now when I am changed but I surely don’t stick to such rules when I am HUNGRY and bored of my food. That is AWFUL, I add carbs if I must in that case.
But if I am really hungry so food boredom has little chance, I easily eat 300g fat from 2 items…
I prefer to eat for pleasure, I am a hedonist. Eating 1000g fatty pork and 10 eggs can be great for pleasure. This level is occasional but eating too much every day? It’s what I do when I do my best not to.
I don’t say it can’t work for some. Or that restrictions on the food items isn’t useful even for me, it totally is. Being shy with dairy and added fat (and very fatty meat) significantly reduces the chance and severity of overeating. But it’s individual. Other people usually say fat satiate them. And some can overeat bacon using unbelievable amounts while I need all my skills to reach 60g. It’s not THAT easy, a few items may be plenty to eat a ton. Some people don’t even get bored.
And anyway, one can eat too much without any joy, appetite and hunger (okay, not having any reduces the chances but it’s not enough). There are some serious urges to eat, the body demands food. Even if it’s a chore and hard to do, it had to be done. Boredom just makes it hellish or slow or one needs 6 meals to do it…
Nope, I want my joy and appetite and the right amount of variety, thank you very much.
But the possibly hinted part where we don’t include tempting treats we can eat any time, I may agree, that should help. My keto days when I was quite generous with chocolate ended up higher-cal (like, 1000 kcal more than usual, I had such a day. no regrets, I needed more fat and freedom here and there but I don’t do such things anymore).
I also have’t studied up on being metabolically healthy enough to raise my carbs. T2 is my main concern so I’ll watch that, the priority. Weight gain, I don’t know, atleast I am way more active than when I started though 
