Dish Detergent

(Peter - Don't Fear the Fat ) #1

I use it. What alternative is there? But is there any danger . I try to rinse it well but …

(Bob M) #2

Well, I was going to post about how hand washing dishes has been indicating as helping the biome, but instead I got a bunch of hits like this one:

Now, I think this is in a test tube (nor a real animal), but I didn’t realize there were so many studies on this.

(Peter - Don't Fear the Fat ) #3

Thanks Bob. Since an IBD diagnosis anything involving gut barrier interests me.
Anybody use Castile soap?

Amazon link

(Brian) #4

Probably not much of a reply but I tend to do dishes by hand, and with fairly minimal dish soap (typically Dawn). Have not had any issues with residues or anything odd with that.

BUT, I have noted that I do NOT like using the dishwasher or any of the pods that get used for cleaning the dishes. Seems like every time I open the dishwasher after a load is washed, there is a horrible “chemical” type smell. And I sometimes notice that on some of the dishes.

(I confess, the dishwasher has a leak and I’ve not fixed it. My wife likes the convenience. But I would really rather wash them by hand than use that thing. So… I’ve “lazily” not fixed it, can’t say I really want to.)

(Bob M) #5

With two kids and a dog, we can fill up and run the dishwasher twice a day sometimes. When the dishwasher goes down, or we lose power, and have to wash by hand, I realize how long it takes us to hand wash dishes. I don’t mind it, but it so time consuming.

@Pjam That looks like interesting soap. I usually use Dawn, but mainly because it dissolves fat. I might have to go look at the label.

#6

I don’t have a dishwasher (never even saw one in my life, actually) and probably never will, I use little dish soap and my SO simply use none, ever. Or hot water. He manages to clean everything he cleans with cold water only, wow. I eknow it’s great for showers but we cook very fatty… :smiley: But I am the main dishwasher, he just doesn’t often wash truly greasy dishes…

I am not helpful here but I always wanted to express my surprise over his odd dishwashing method…

Dishwashing takes time if one makes everything from scratch and lots of desserts and bread - but it’s still not nearly as bad as washing clothes by hand. I had a rented room without a washing machine once. I managed, even without feeling utterly miserable (that was sharing a room with a stranger, don’t recommend) but I am glad it was only for a few years.

(KM) #7

Hand wash. Hot water, scrubbie and elbow grease. Minimal Dr. Bronner’s (Castile). I’m basically convinced that nearly everything man made is probably not good for us.

(KM) #8

My sentiments exactly. Hand washing of heavy clothes like denim and sweaters, not to mention towels and bed linen, is beyond me. A sink full of messy dishes is not.

(Peter - Don't Fear the Fat ) #9

Sounds like I’m late to the party … though I hadn’t spotted that brand. Do you use it on dishes?

(Bean) #10

Hubby hand washes dishes using unscented dish soap. We haven’t had a dishwasher for 13 years since we moved to this house.

I shower using only unscented tallow soap/ baking soda/ (and on my face cold cream), even in my (short) hair. I’m intolerant of salicyates, though, which is in a lot of fragranced stuff and skin products. Definitely lots of gut problems still. (ETA Dr. Bronner’s is great for getting odors out of laundry.- I get most of my unscented laundry products from an Amish company since unscented Tide powder went away)

(Jane) #11

I didn’t put a dishwasher in my last (retirement) house when I built it, so we wash by hand. For 2 people it is not a burden. I use Dawn also.

I could use castille since I make my own but I hadn’t thought about it. I haven’t been successful making liquid soap out of my homemade soap yet.

I did make my own laundry detergent though. I grate the castille soap very finely and add baking soda and borax (yes, they still make the old 20 mule team brand!).

(Joey) #12

Clearly, carb-restriction leads to a dawn effect.

(Bean) #13

It’s also great for washing greasy kitchen towels from high fat cooking!

(Doug) #14

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We have a dishwasher, but have never used it in 2 years of living here.

I get big jugs of dish soap at Restaurant Depot - a place in the U.S. that primarily sells to restaurants. Substantially cheaper than smaller quantities of other stuff.

Never any problem with residue, I usually rinse 4 times. The first gets the heavy stuff off, the second gets the remainder - there will still be a little bit of foam/bubbles - indicating that some soap remained.

The third, just to make sure, and the fourth just for the sake of compulsion and really, really making sure. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

#15

That was the absolute WORST… Nowadays I have some thinner stuff but back then they were thick and stiff, ouch. I strongly preferred other materials back then but still had 1-2 jeans.

I am very similar. Sometimes I wonder about the days when I have spent weeks in Grandma’s house without water. I had to take trips with a container to the well in the middle of the street (the house was on one end but it wasn’t a long street)… It wasn’t a big difficulty but I would be grumpy if I had to go back to that. I LOVED that place, by the way, garden, Nature nearby and everything! It was more important to me than unnecessary comfort (at least for just some weeks per year). No bathroom, outhouse (pretty cool, not smelly… it was filled with spiders and often wasps but they were friendly. once I run into a huge freshly spun spiderweb in the dark…) - but there was a washing machine, an old, simple one :slight_smile:
And those time had an effect. I still can completely clean myself (except my hair) with 1-1.5 liters of water if I must (the water pump dies sometimes) and I could do the dishes with little more after lunch. The rinsing water was changed once at most but it was a big multi course Sunday lunch for 3 then. I still like to use clean water for everything now…

#16

My wife has replaced basically every cleaner in the house with this brand. Surprisingly, works really good!

#17

Baking soda / sodium bicarbonate. Get an old plastic bottle (shampoo or similar). Fill it 90% with baking soda. Fill the rest with water. Give it a good shake. Repeat until full.
Thats it. It will clean all your dishes, pans, baking trays - everything. Even the greasiest baked on ones. Better even than standard dish soap for the greasy stuff!
Been using it for 12 years now - will never go back. Great for you, great for the environment. And you can buy a 25kg sack on eBay for dirt cheap. As well as all its benefits, it will save you money!!
You can use it for general purpose cleaning too eg sinks, shower trays, oven.
On top of that I use it instead of shampoo, soap and toothpaste. If you need a nice smell or taste just add a few drops of essential oil.
You can get different grain sizes - I prefer the finer powdery grain, but any sort works just fine.
Basically it works brilliantly on anything acidic (eg fat). If it is something alkali that needs cleaning (eg limescale) then use vinegar.
If you need something stronger you can use wash soda or borax. I use a tablespoon of each these two in the washing machine and a cup of vinegar in the fabric softener compartment. As well as cleaning all of your laundry this will also clean up your washing machine!
If you need a drain cleaner / unblocker then use hydrogen peroxide. I use the 12% version. You can get a 5 litre container from eBay or Amazon for fairly cheap. Its also great against mould. Again, great for you, great for the environment!
The only thing where I have failed to good alternative is the dishwasher - so if anyone has a good suggestion please let me know.

(Peter - Don't Fear the Fat ) #18

Wow! A solution that’s gotta be tried.

#19

You wont be disappointed!! I guarantee it!
Be careful when you wash your dishes for the first couple of times - the dishes etc can be a bit slippery. I think this is because of the dish soap residue on the dishes, but Im not sure. The slipperiness stops after a few washes.
The other thing I forgot to mention is that you squeeze it directly onto the dish cloth or pans etc instead of into the sink or washing up bowl like you do with dish soap.

(Peter - Don't Fear the Fat ) #20

Need to break the habit of a life time.

Now there’s a worrying thought… and maybe even my source of gut permeability?