DEC 2025 IF/EX Fasting


(Central Florida Bob ) #21

Perhaps strangely, I used the bathroom less. At least, it seemed that way - I didn’t keep records before or during.

It is kind of interesting that the effect was so fast - 35 seconds. I could have used that last night. Maybe I’ll go get a jar of pickles.


(KM) #22

Interesting about the pickle juice! Mine come and go - cramps, not pickles, that is - I really haven’t pinpointed any good reason either. They seem to go hand in hand with nocturia for me, which I link to higher ketone levels … So maybe it’s a ketone-driven dehydration??


(Brian) #23

Not a lot of cramps, maybe on occasion, but usually with something unusual (interrupted normal eating pattern, unusual activity of some kind, that sort of thing). But I do love pickle juice. It’s not like I drink it every day but finishing off the juice at the bottom of a jar of dills (homemade, no added sugar) is a treat for me. :slight_smile:


(Central Florida Bob ) #24

I came here to add that last night I didn’t have any calf cramps. I have a sore spot on my right calf, back of the calf, the “big roundish muscle”, where the muscle and the tendons there meet. That started after my bad cramps yesterday and might be a small muscle tear. I added salt water yesterday like I had done overnight before sunrise on the 12th.


(Bob M) #25

A tear would suck.

I wonder if the pickle juice affects the brain/nerves somehow to stop the cramp, but doesn’t affect the underlying problem? That is, it can help an individual cramp, but not prevent other cramps?


(Bob M) #26

I love pickles, but don’t have them at home that much. So, when I get most cramps – and I don’t get them that often – I generally don’t have pickle juice. I happened to have it when I did get a lower leg cramp at night and “ran” down and drank the pickle juice.

When I do have pickles, I try to drink the juice whenever I think about it.

Around 10am on day 4, I drank some hot turkey stock. I waited over an hour, then had a single “sandwich” of two types of deli meat, red onion, and mustard. (I was planning on an egg, but I guess my wife ate all the hardboiled ones we had.) I waited at least an hour, then had yogurt with collagen peptides, some nuts, and creatine. I did have to go to the bathroom once, but reentry was remarkably mellow.

Day 4, evening, immediately after eating my “fourth” meal: BS 77, ketones 3.2

Day 4, morning: BS 101 (back to my normal); ketones 2.3 (way higher than normal).


(Bean) #27

I haven’t been fasting because my carpal tunnel becomes painful when I approach 48 hours. It happened three times before I believed it. Now I’m wondering if electrolytes might play a role? Fasting is really helpful for arthritis. Maybe I should try a 48 hour fast and mind my electrolytes a little better?


(Central Florida Bob ) #28

They’re like a cut in coming in lots of different sizes and shapes. Also like a cut, big ones suck, tiny ones are “meh.” I notice it’s less obvious today.

Hard to know if it was even a tear and not from being over 71. :wink: