ummm now THAT is what I’d call fake news.
Cutting carbs can increase your risk of diabetes
stacy
(Keto in Katy)
#3
“Quality carbohydrates high in cereal fiber” … 
From the article:
“A group of leading international and Australian experts say the evidence on the health benefits of eating whole grains is “unequivocal” and those who avoid them are increasing their risk of disease.”
unequivocal | ˌənəˈkwivək(ə)l |
adjective
leaving no doubt; unambiguous
Okey-dokey then 
richard
(Richard Morris)
#4
I met Jenni Brand-Miller in Sydney when I went to interview professor David Ludwig. She was his host, and is one of the “experts” on that panel.
Kind of embarrassing for her that he pretty much said in the lecture and again on our podcast - there is no human essential requirement for carbohydrates and that type 2 diabetics will likely need to eat at the ketogenic end of the low carb family of diets.
barefootbob
#5
“It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his income depends on his not understanding it.”
- H. L. Mencken
VLC.MD
(VLC.MD)
#8
haha.
… says unfortunately there is a “very noisy” group trying to convince people to completely cut carbohydrates.
Now they don’t mention Carl and Richard by name … but … well … we know who the noise makers are !!! Congrats to the both of you.
ianrobo
(ianrobo)
#9
so no bias here
In a bid to increase the consumption of whole grains, the International Carbohydrate Quality Consortium (ICQC) - a group of about 30 nutrition academics, epidemiologists and scientists - has released a consensus report on their health benefits
Some funny group with no funding comes out with this with a pre conceived aim, so why not look at my results I posted and tell me I need to eat the poison that is whole grains ?
ianrobo
(ianrobo)
#10
in fact the research is very clear that when you include whole grain it is associated with lower risk of cardiovascular disease, diabetes and of weight gain,
so very clear on their rubbish website and article no links to it at all
ianrobo
(ianrobo)
#12
ah just seen another thread on this, so needs to be merged but all I would say is to look at the comments on the article …
the evidence is not there and they know it
JamieHayes
(Jamie Hayes)
#13
I think these “experts” are prone to using false logic or conflation. When it comes to fibre and diabetes, no doubt those on high fibre do better (or less worse) than those on low fibre, assuming carb levels constant.
But this ignores the fact that those with IR, D1, or D2 will do much better on LCHF, regardless of fibre.
The main effect of fibre is to slow down the glycemic (blood sugar raising) effect of carbs. Just cut the carbs!
PaulL
(Bacon is a many-splendoured thing)
#15
The Australian radiologist, Troy Stapleton, had to fight with the ADA to get them to modify their advice, after he found it too difficult to control his newly-diagnosed Type I diabetes when following it. (They were basically saying to eat lots of carbohydrate and then control the glucose spikes with insulin.) He stays at a reasonable level of blood glucose on LCHF and a minimal daily dose of insulin, and his attitude is, “Why would you tell me to eat more of the stuff that causes me problems and then control it with a drug, when I could simply avoid eating that stuff in the first place?” He has given a number of talks about his experience at LCDU events, available on YouTube.
I wish he’d take on the American ADA, now that he’s got the Australian one sorted.
ianrobo
(ianrobo)
#16
not sure the ADA is sorted but they will eventually collapse their old views as weight of evidence will do it for it
MrPartster
(Chris)
#17
Article from the Sydney Morning Herald 8/12/17 pointing out if you dont eat carbs you will get diabetes and cancer! That just not Keto
Australians risk increasing their chances of developing diabetes, cardiovascular disease and colon cancer if they cut quality carbohydrates high in cereal fibre from their diets, experts say.
A group of leading international and Australian experts say the evidence on the health benefits of eating whole grains is “unequivocal” and those who avoid them are increasing their risk of disease.
Experts are warning against the trend of Australians cutting quality carbohydrates.
In a bid to increase the consumption of whole grains, the International Carbohydrate Quality Consortium (ICQC) - a group of about 30 nutrition academics, epidemiologists and scientists - has released a consensus report on their health benefits.
The report follows two days of discussions in Italy in September between ICQC members, including US physician Professor Walter Willett at Harvard University’s School of Public Health…
Professor Jennie Brand Miller from the University of Sydney’s Charles Perkins Centre and School of Life and Environmental Sciences - one of three Australian members of the consortium - says unfortunately there is a “very noisy” group trying to convince people to completely cut carbohydrates.
“We think that the current environment is giving the general public the impression that all grains are best avoided when in fact the research is very clear that when you include whole grain it is associated with lower risk of cardiovascular disease, diabetes and of weight gain,” Professor Miller told AAP.
“The science is unequivocal when it comes to diabetes and cardiovascular disease.”
Fruit and vegetables contain fibre but the cereal fibre found in whole grains is most closely associated with reduced colon cancer risk, Prof Miller added.
“There are many positive studies showing that a lack of cereal fibre is associated with increased risk of colon cancer,” she said.
A whole grain retains its original form, with the bran, germ and endosperm remaining. Many products, in particular bread, remove the bran and germ.
“The bran layer is where all the micronutrients are concentrated, so it does not make sense to throw out the bran,” Prof Miller said.
One body of thought is that when people consume carbohydrates without fibre it quickly raises insulin levels and the insulin stimulates the growth of mutant cells, such as colon cancer cells.
The science is unequivocal when it comes to diabetes and cardiovascular disease.
Professor Jennie Brand Miller
“Insulin is this anabolic hormone that doesn’t distinguish between good cells and bad cells, so the insulin is increasing the multiplication of mutant cells and sort of acting like fertiliser,” explained Prof Miller.
When you ingest the whole grain, she says, the body benefits from the “full compliment of micronutrients and antioxidants” like Vitamin E and C, which help slow down the process of free radicals.
The report also supports consuming whole grains for weight control among the overweight and obese and calls for multifaceted efforts to increase whole grain consumption.
AAP
MrPartster
(Chris)
#19
It’s unbelievable what lengths people will go to to try and discredit a low carb diet, they must be starting to get worried if they have to hit main stream media with releases like this to try and add to their scare campaign