My thought is that I couldn’t care less if it throws me out of ketosis if it does. Meat is the best I can eat. My body actually pesters me if I keep it low (like below 500g) nowadays… I trust my body and can’t argue much with it anyway…
But no, I didn’t notice meat would throw me out of ketosis… Not like I have any idea when I am in ketosis… But I actually feel if I eat more carbs than what my body prefers, it’s not a sudden clear sign but maybe it has something to do with ketosis? I don’t care, I want to eat low enough carbs, whatever that means and whatever it has to do with ketosis. I probably feel off even when still in ketosis but ate way too much carbs to my body’s liking… I need more experiments (I probably will say this until my dying day).
I did keto with 40g net carbs and way higher total every day, I did it with very few plant carbs and I had some in-between days. I never noticed much meat would be a problem but see above, I can’t tell if I am in or just out of ketosis under normal circumstances, maybe there are hints but I can’t be sure…
I eat protein according to my hunger/satiation signs and probably there are minor other things as well. It doesn’t even matter if I go out of ketosis (but I don’t believe high protein is a problem there anyway) because I CAN’T eat less protein even if I try. As I tried it in the beginning and failed every day And I feel right with high so that must be the right way (and it’s my only way anyway so…). I can’t see why I would worry if there are no actual problems jumping on me. And there aren’t (not due to much protein, at least. I feel pretty great when I eat much protein and I get hungry at midnight when I don’t so I eat a bunch more and feel better.)
Definitely don’t lower your protein due to mere fear. If you think you need more, you are probably right. There is a thing as too much protein as our body has its limits but it’s not a real concern for most of us. While eating too little protein is common. probably less so among ketoers but I saw plenty of examples even there, WAY too low protein, no matter how I looked at it (I don’t believe in tiny protein needs but I can imagine one can pull it off with a little amount like 1g/kg for LBM. some people allegedly can do that. I am significantly over 2 on average when I do my absolute best to eat as little protein as possible, my body seems to need it for some reason. and who am I to argue with it when it should know its own needs best)…
I believe high protein is much better than too low. Or losing our sanity as we can’t eat below high…
Yeah, it’s a guesswork and hoping it’s right when we don’t know ours well enough yet. It’s just too complex, we do our best (or our comfortable best or whatever we can) and hopefully it will be enough. If not, we can tweak or train and evolve… But I don’t like to worry when nothing is clearly wrong yet and I probably do what I should. That’s not healthy mentally and stress can mess with you more than some extra protein… Even much extra protein sometimes. (So not 50g over your probable need but 150g? I don’t think only I am that “wild” with protein.)
By the way you get your fat adaptation even if you mess it up with carbs sometimes. It is slower but you don’t ruin everything.
I kept my carbs low enough until fat adaptation but my protein was high as always and I got it after 7 weeks. Maybe some people are super sensitive but I imagine it requires some really messed up body to go out of ketosis and even harming fat adaptation (so it’s not a super short time? I still am not nearly knowledgeable enough but I still have a good idea how to eat, it’s borderline enough) when you simply eat as much meat as you feel like…
Yeah but many of us have such a sudden big change at the right time that we can take an educated guess I am quite sure about my own. My hunger suddenly changed quite drastically after 7 weeks. It was amazing.