So… I make bone broth in my instant pot. After four hours of pressure cooking poultry bones are very soft and crumbly. So soft that I can eat them.
I do not eat dairy because it causes me inflammation in my joints, so I supplement with citrical. Do those soft crumbly bones have any calcium left in them after making the broth or has all of that been leeched into the broth.
huh I have no idea. I would think if you boil them to literally crumble type that most of everything in those bones would be out of them into the broth?
see I don’t do bone broths of any kind.
number 1 rule of carnivore when I started back in the day was never ‘drink’ your food. eat meat, drink water. So any time zero carbers would mention bone broth to sip etc and then said something like, geez I had broth and then ate less food cause I wasn’t that hungry…the veteran zero carbers would say NEVER drink your dinner 
always eat food first at all times and IF you have any space in your tummy after, then consider sipping some broth.
well little old me never had sufficient room for broth after eating HAHA
so just a weird little background story on why I never went this route.
but I know many love it and desire it so I will watch how they answer about your bones
When I have bone broth, I try to have the broth as part of my meal. Although, for some reason I awoke ravenous at 3 am this morning, so I drank some broth to tide me over until it was time to get up. I’m not sure why that happened, except I had chicken and shrimp for dinner, so maybe it was not enough fat.
I am trying to work towards a nose-to-tail approach. I consider it a fun challenge, because I am really not a fan of organ meats.
Well… if I am truly honest with myself, liver may be the extent of my organ meats. 
Some people have broth as a night cap to relax before bed. I think in that case you’re not replacing meat with broth. it also can be useful for keeping your energy up if you’re very sick and can’t eat meat but I wouldn’t have it for any other reason.
yea it could be. it is lucky you have the broth to sip on then and hold out a bit. 3 am tho is never too early to fry up a steak HAHA nah, I never ate in the middle of the night like that tho cause lucky I never hit that feeling like that.
be sure to eat real good this morning later…fill yourself up in fine form
This is an advice that I never understood. Sure, you don’t want to add too many calories besides your main meals, but this goes for every diet and not specifically for carnivore or even keto. In my personal opinion rules are stupid unless they come with a good explaination.
Me, I’m doing very well if I have just a bit of cream or butter in my morning coffee or a bit oil in my tea. I’ll be full until late afternoon. If drink tea without oil then I’ll get pretty hungry around noon and will have 2 meals that day. So less than 20g fat in the morning replace a full meal. Thanks, but I’ll continue to have my coffee with cream.
yea it took me a bit to understand this reasoning but I get it now.
Your body will suppress its appetite on coffee and cream, or big old mug of bone broth and if one adds butter etc. to it all to up the fat…but this is not food.
It is a ‘kinda fake food’ that takes your appetite from ‘real food’. So while the fat content is satisfying etc., it never will be a ‘complete real meat’ for your body to process and take all that good from the meat and heal more.
So I get the reasoning behind it but for so many, like you said, the coffee/cream and bone broth will satisfy and is what you want. It is how you do best on plan and feel good.
but truly for some, drinking their food actually takes away from what carnivore does. carnivore should be meat and fat as a meal. Your body uses all of this to start healing and more and does it best on fresh meat and fat.
but again, many people will roll with the drinks, like broth and jacked up coffee. I get it
If one thrives doing it then cool, but if one finds their coffee or bone broth is stealing a ‘real meal’ from them and end up raveneous or not feeling up to snuff, or get laggy or anything, and can’t figure out why…it just could be the ‘drink’ is monkeying with them.
but the good thing is one can make it all suit them as they need.
but when carnivore goes funky in any way…the original ‘eat meat, drink water’ is where anyone should run back to
I don’t agree with that where the broth is concerned. You get minerals from the broth that you do not get from muscle meat.
one gets all they need from meat and fat. that is what the body thrives on and only needs.
of course bone broth is a very good drink. I never said it wasn’t and many do very well with it! not one doubt about that but it can’t and won’t ever replace a real meal of meat and fat for what it can do for your body.
It can’t.
Can it enrich your menu etc…absolutely. Is it all you need to thrive, nope. Meat/fat real meals are always the best bet.
I eat the bones as well. I do chicken thighs in the slow-cooker for 8+ hours - the ends of the bones are delicious!
I have yet to see proof that carnivore is universally better than any other diet. It is a valid treatment for certain health issues, it may have significant benefits if you do it for a few months, but frankly I’m not at all sure that carnivore is healthy in the long term for everybody.
We really need to start using science in nutrition, instead of statements that seem to be sensible (like “eat less and you lose weight”) but have no scientific backing. Many scientists claimed that high carb would be good for us, with exactly the same reasons you just gave, and we all know how that went.
The fact that one people (the Inuit) did well on an all meat diet does not imply that this diet is good for everybody, especially considering that they had a gene mutation that would keep them out of ketosis.
https://honey-guide.com/tag/bone-broth/
If you need to reduce your oxalate levels, caution may be needed when taking extra gelatine or bone broth.
here is some info to chat about.
If you feel like this than you can’t go there in carnivore land truly.
and I don’t mean this bad in any way shape or form.
it is just that us longer term carnivores, I am going into that 3 yr mark and many are 15, 20 yrs plus on carnivore, then we do have some proof it is a doable, long term, sustainable, beneficial diet.
As are many plans for many different people, I get that!!
If people can’t handle carnivore or not go here, I also get that.
But I am a carnivore long term lifer and believer of the sciences I do read and the ‘somewhat’ studies and more out there about this plan so I am always gonna go for it is the best darn thing out there I won’t ever change my thoughts on that.
what works for me won’t ever work for all, again, I get it but putting out info on WHY carnivore works as it does and why we follow certain protocols are because they reap better benefits while doing this plan. Those who walked before us can confirm. And hey, all won’t do carnivore the same, I said that above, we can all thrive as we need doing carnivore.
So the basic carnivore core value is eat meat, drink water. As basic as it gets. if one has troubles varying their food intake or drink intake on carnivore or something out of sorts arises, then go back to the basics. The basics is the foundation of this plan.
So yea I get coffee with cream. I get bone broth. But it should not take your hunger away first. The most obvious conclusion is eat meat and if your tummy wants it, sip on some broth. If you wanna snack out or have a hot drink at night, sure, sip some broth. But to have it take your appetite away from real meat is not what carnivore is about. Won’t ever be.
and yes some do just that and it works for them So it is cool we all do for ourselves, not a darn thing wrong with that.
I am playing both sides here kinda. In that, sure bone broth is a good thing, no doubt about that, should it replace a meal. no. but if someone is fine rolling along with that and do well on it then yea, they are gonna do it and can thrive. I get it.
but for new carnivores it is best they know that bone broth is not a meal replacement and should never be. Many come from keto plans etc and rely on this broth a lot. Where carnivore plan relies on one eating meat! Again, basic plan value here. Important one also.
Hey, people. This thread is about eating bones, not a debate on whether or not carnivore is the best diet.
And there are people who went on carnivore, didn’t do well and they stopped it. And frankly, the majority of people going on idiotic diets like Andrew William will also swear that their diet is great and helps them.
I don’t want to devalue your experience in any way. Sample cases are important, as they tell us that a theory may be valid (and they can invalidate a theory as well, I’d say we have enough data to say with certainty that the lipid hypothesis is wrong). And I clearly wouldn’t suggest that you change your diet, just the contrary. In fact I have suggested numerous times in other forums that some people should try to go carnivore. But we do need statistics for solid science, with a decent-sized population with some variety in age and background.
As I said we know that carnivore is good for some people. We know the same about a keto diet that is not meat centered. We can even claim this for a diet with a decent amount of carbs, as long as there are no refined carbs/sugar (see Kitavans). Which one is THE BEST ™?
If I had to bet my non-existing house, I’d put it on “it depends”. Different people will have different optimal diets, and science will tell us eventually who needs which diet.
I really don’t know! But I eat them because they’re delicious. I certainly don’t think they do me any harm. The marrow inside is, I gather, very nutritious as well as yummy. 
