Carnivore ZC SurfTurf-tember! 30-day September Challenge. 2022


#362

If we eat pork hocks and lamb shanks next moth can we call it “Hocktober”?

Or do we rock on with ZC carnivore and call it “Rocktober”?

I can hear everyone’s brains popping with October and carnivore rhyming slang.

(ЗК Жовтень = ZC October in Cyrillic script).


#363

yea I feel you on this. thru the yrs I ‘tried some stuff’ that other carnivores swore by but it sure did not ‘suit me’ one bit. which is why after my experimenting I now just eat what the body wants.

if you do you and find that bit of you that works best etc. then you can find that right step forward. Sounds to me you are doing so well Azi in finding you!! Good post.

too funny. darn they look delish in the pic tho!! funny when us carnivores get our meat and think…man, could this meat get any smaller on thiis plate? :slight_smile: Notice too that prices keep going up but size of product or amt going down. Our local take out Chinese joint used to sell 6 very large whole wings in their appetizer order. Hubby loves them. Now when ordered the last time it still says ‘6 wings’ in order but what they did was take 3 wings, cut the 2 parts and made a total of 6 separate pieces from those 3 wings and ‘still call it an order of 6’ and price went up…hubby was irked. said no more payin’ that price for 1/2 the order :wink:

@FrankoBear
Oct name should be wild and wooley. I like the thought of just ‘rockin’ on in Oct.

So many miss the reason for carnivore. It isn’t as written with all veg are evil for everyone. It is all about is veg evil for YOU? Is sugar YOUR personal kryptonite? It is an elimination menu to ‘find you’ personally on veg and other stuff one drops like diet soda etc. I think it still is seen under that ‘bad wrap of blanket’ statements but hey, all eating changes has the negative side out there :slight_smile: Carnivores who come and stay on plan love it, got great health improvements, found trying to go backward into low carb and adding some foods did not do well so they kept the plan, which of course one can live and thrive on without veg in their menu ever so…but many carnivores can go back a bit into a very low controlled veg intake, they add and find the personal effect food has on them. Those who can go back and do well, more power to them. IF I COULD go backward, eat certain foods and thrive, darn right I would but they don’t ‘suit me’ at all. I am that carnivore that needs to stay put. I wish people would understand the reason concept of carnivore. Sad it is portrayed so poorly so many times…oh well…

-------------------busy day today. on the road with hubby doing some stuff I gotta handle. I am sure I will be dragged out to eating lunch on the road. naked burgers or big old bacon cheese omelet. My ‘standard’ food on the road. :slight_smile: dinner I got pork or chicken in fridge. Grab whatever and call it a day ya know. No meats are screaming ‘eat me’ right now so I got an easy food day going down.


(Vic) #364

At minced beef that was a few days over its expire date, now my stomach it growling, cant feel anything wrong but its noisy . Haha.
The carnivore acciditie will deal with it, I know it is very high.

This evening is raw ribeye and old cheddar cheese.

All the Hotels in Gibraltar are full, so need to drive to Spain every day to sleep there. The daily border crossing is annoying, but what can you do?

Yesterday I was in a restaurants for a business dinner and when I ordered 2 steaks on 1 plate with nothing else, my companion said “Great idea, Ill take the same”. He asked, “you do that a lot ?” And i replied casually “yes, always”.
We went on with our business and had a great meal without the word Keto or Carnivore spoken.

I think its wordt telling here because it was like the most normal thing in the world, even the waitress didn’t ask a sigle question and the cook didn’t add unwanted veg to the plate. They got tipped royally.

All restaurant’s should be like this.

Perhaps carnivore will be mainstream one day, i surely hope so.


(Robin) #365

Yeah, I find most restaurants are very happy to accommodate my “just the meat please” request. In fact, they often throw in more meat since I have no sides.


#366

I am still hanging around here, it’s a good distraction on an almost useless day even if food itself can’t really charm me.

Thanks, everyone. I probably go back to some very proper carni today as the last thing I desire right now is carbs. Yesterday I desired some milk but I had none and I made the nicest egg milk (with a generous amount of butter) in my life. And I didn’t even add coffee to it. I almost made a no coffee day but I had a black one at 8:30pm… Good enough.

I slept unwell, more like not at all in most of the night but I can’t skip sleep so I had it in the morning. Alvaro woke up in his morning, saw I am up so he let me sleep late (he has the job to wake me awake in the weekend as I am so bad at it).
My appetite is its lowest all time so despite my finally arriving hunger (at 2pm), I don’t want to eat. When it gets painful, I surely will, I thawed out my pork roast, a little liver and I have eggs, it should be enough for a single meal. I can’t focus on my food while eating, it’s super odd but my head is full with thoughts, I only get some peace if I read or watch something captivating but I start to find other methods so I can actually do something useful too. Things still didn’t sink it, IDK why this delayed reaction now.

I planned to make not-quite-buffalo turkey wings but I am not in the mood and I ate turkey not so long ago anyway. So I just eat leftovers, I still have a pig’s tongue in the freezer. I will shop for some meat in a few days but maybe Alvaro can find something for me, he regularly checks the lil town supermarket for one of his carby staples anyway, the price is best there but they often run out of it.
We planned a city shopping next weekend but maybe the funeral will be then, IDK how quick things go and when the priest will be free… We are waiting for feedback about the ash transfer and priest so it’s very uncertain now. But we can shop on the way back I suppose. We will cross the country twice on the same day, fortunately the gas situation isn’t as bad as it was some time ago (a refinement factory or what is it called was out for a while, foreigners came to buy our cheaper gas too, these are solved for now).

Alvaro says the price cap on the food items (like pork butts that they sell as “thigh”) stays until December. I don’t even care, I just want my precious pork butts in proper amounts. And cat food. Our cats aren’t very choosy but they still don’t just accept any of them… They like one from LIDL but we rarely find it there lately. There is another option and that’s it.

That’s nice… I haven’t eaten hocks lately for reasons but I would buy it again if that wins…

I won’t promise ANYTHING, October is too fruity anyway but considering how my body and mind and taste buds and other parts respond to a single carbier day… I am all for having lots of carnivore days in October, I just need proper supplies. Without the usual amount of city shopping in my last several weeks, my freezer is pretty empty.
And I still need to do something with the days when I happen to be bored of my pork but I have ideas. But when I am not, I have no excuse, those days are very good eating wise.

[…]
Some pork shoulder roast, a bite of liver, a few eggs (half of them in my egg milks along with some butter), quark with sour cream and tinned herring. Eating isn’t as easy as usual with my super low appetite but I think I got enough nutrients to keep me kind of strong. TMAD IF 22/2, no mood for tracking and I might get hungry later anyway. Near carnivore (the herring had sauce and the quark was more edible with 2g xylitol and I probably needed my protein. oddly I am really turned off by fruits now but that’s a fine thing just unusual. normally I find them nice even if I can live without them for some more days or weeks. in winter, surely months, not having them around all the time - only a few kinds I can handle - makes things easier even now that actual desire/craving almost never happens).

Meanwhile I changed. My various thoughts in my mind slowed down, I am merely sad and a bit lost.

It doesn’t seem nearly as a wild idea to me as, say, 5 years ago… I can imagine why one chooses this woe. Or eat such meals often, at least. There is some expertly cooked good meat, why would it need vegs and sauces and (very pretty) duchess potatoes?

Oh and I keep forgetting to show the naked ladies. Not a good photo but the flowers are usually problematic too, not standing properly, sometimes wilted (but I definitely didn’t put much care into my shot either):

It’s a rainy day today, no walk, it’s good I did it a lot lately so I don’t miss it yet. Alvaro’s photo, he was inspired by the view (it seems the lowish light affected quality…):


(Karen) #367

I think we must be catching up with you out there in America because we tend to think of you always getting oversized meal servings … the portions sizes I got last weekend were big! However it would seem your restaurants are starting to scrimp on your portion sizes looking at your chick thighs!

I can remember when I was serving in Germany and remember the portion sizes there were pretty huge!

Brew and books out in garden this morning only now I find i am having to wear my lumber style jacket to keep off the chill. Still enjoyable and feel I am doing myself good getting that fresh air first thing. Still loving my books and one after the other seem to be choosing great reads.

Brunch was the last duck egg in the fridge, tiny sausages and bacon.


Dinner buffalo wings… again … followed by mussels and tinned tuna with mayo which was yuk!


(Michael) #368

@Karen18 I have determined I need more mussels in my diet!

Breakfast today, I could not quite finish the homemade bacon but got the rest in. Will eat bacon with my second meal today.

2eggs, 2 oz beef liver and 2 oz chicken liver, 1 oz snails, 3 oz thymus, 5 oz salmon and Buffalo heart and 2 oz of bacon eaten.


#369

Another night of fragmented sleep but I think it will get better now… We don’t need to organize things yet, that’s good. The emotional part is enough at once.

I wonder what I should cook today, I have a tiny pork, a bite of liver and a pork tongue but that’s not so much… I have a few slices of pork butts in the freezer but 5 turkey wing bases (? IDK if you have a proper term, we call it like this) too and now that more days passed turkey sounds good. I don’t really care, I just know I get hungry and want to solve it and it involves a substantial amount of meat, how things changed in a few years… I just have almost no other options. I can pull off one day without meat somehow but on the second it gets trickier, still doable but it’s not something I want to do. And the first is tricky too. I don’t even have super low-cal days that several eggs and some dairy could be enough. I need my meat and it’s convenient, barely any work…
Though the turkey will need more if I want some buffalo wings looking thing.
So they are deep fried first originally but I found recipes for the baked version, good. I don’t deep fry, it’s super messy and anyway, I don’t need much added fat at all. Maybe a little, I think these wing parts have no skin. Maybe that is a problem? Whatever, I just want them red and a tad spicy.
Okay, this recipe has way too many vegs and even honey, why can’t people just let their meat alone - or in this case, not fully but still, not being that wild… But no problem, I am very skilled at skipping ingredients.
And a person is supposed to have .5lbs (??? oh my, that’s, like, nothing) but of course it’s different if it’s one little part of one course in a single meal of many of the day… Or if I am hungry and do OMAD.
Portions were always pretty useless to me, I don’t even understand why people use that super vague and often wrong thing… Maybe if they plan a feast for many people, they can use that, double (or if the happening is long, triple) the amount for safety and that’s it…
But it may be me, it must be a reason why people have a term as portion. Even I use the term sometimes, it means the amount I personally am comfortable with but that’s for tiny desserts, I never can know how much proper food I want, it varies. I may be fine with 200g meat (in extreme cases, even less) or I may need 600. I still didn’t go above that in one sitting except with chicken but I stopped that too.

Hungary probably has big portions, hospitality is big here and people love food. And our food is good. I always liked the “Hungarian flavored(?)” things. It means mostly paprika, be it chips or cheese spread or something with meat where it shines best :slight_smile: But I enjoyed that type of flavoring as a vegetarian a lot too. There are zillion types of vegetarian stews where the spices are exactly the same as in meaty stews and it starts with lots of paprika… And almost ends there, my family never overdid spices, paprika, salt, a little onion, the main item for the stew and it’s enough. Except when sour cream is added, paprika chicken is such a very traditional dish. But sour cream suits the others too if you ask me. Even egg stew has such a version and I didn’t know about it, I just invented it again when I wanted egg stew without the usual tomato sauce we always used before.
But as I often say, stews with their non-carnivore items almost disappeared from my life. I needed them for variety way more before.

I still like to think and write about food. Eating is the odd thing now, I only eat enough not to suffer from hunger now. But it started earlier, carnivore is SUPER effective against my overeating tendencies. Now if I don’t need food, I don’t feel an overhelming desire to eat… Usually. I had some odd days here and there but I chose my items wrong too then, high macros doesn’t necessarily equal good satiation in my case. But I can’t say I have regrets if it’s super rare, I collected some fun though somewhat scary but definitely impressive numbers. 326g fat guesstimated and 251g protein. It’s super rare, I usually stop at 200-220g protein when I even go that far, I usually don’t, my normal carni and carni adjacent days are in the 120-180g range. My body has this amazing sense so I just stop wanting food soon after 200g protein, no matter what, I can eat a little more but that’s it. ~250g is my limit, I tracked it twice I think but the other day was low-fat (and keto). Interestingly, my fat intake has little to do with my protein intake except they tend to move together due to my fattiness preference but not always. It’s easy to add a lot of extra fat, I just do my best to avoid that.

Why I write this much all the time…?

Today started rainy too, car day for Alvaro, I hope he can bring me some meat :slight_smile: I requested pork butts if possible (little chance) or 70/30 pork. But I am fine for some more days and then I go and find something.
Oh the funeral not being this week we totally go and buy the freezer full with meat. I like my rare challenges but I had enough of them lately (mostly egg related and it can be solved with a simple trip to the village) and not having enough food for the foreseeable future isn’t that nice. I like when I have my variety, leaner pork, fatty pork, fish, turkey, some ruminant, a little processed stuff for emergencies (or for Alvaro’s eggs and sausages)…


#370

so happy to read you are getting benefits that are working well for you S!!

@Karen18, I didn’t remember reading you were eating duck eggs. Do you prefer or any diff. over reg. ol’ eggs? I had some duck eggs SO LONG ago ya know I can’t even remember if I enjoyed them or there was a taste diff, lol.

@Naghite, super plate pic!!

------------------keeping today very simple. hunger level is low. in that zone, which is a normal flip around for me time to time.

today is 2 chick breasts to start day. maybe a 1/2 lb or full lb. of bacon later. yes I got bacon on MY MIND :wink: then I got a bit of leftover country pork ribs I made in fridge to finish off too…so food day is covered in easy way.

so running around doing errands yesterday and ended up with hubby wanting Japanese take away for meal. We stopped and I got usual…a side of steak plain, side of jumbo shrimp plain but darn steak came with ‘I think?’ hibachi sauce on it. Couldn’t have been teriyaki option cause to me that sauce is super sweet, more salty like hibachi…I just accepted it cause place was packed and we waited FOREVER for the meal to hit the table and I said screw it, eat it. yea soy sauce hibachi crap right? yea my guts are off this morning for sure but not bad but I feel the effects! So I know I can tolerate that sauce but I don’t gut wise enjoy that darn crap. But not bad gut, but enough to say to myself, if the place wasn’t so crowded and take forever to return plate and get new I will make sure I don’t compromise for a darn restaurant outing again. Ugh, sometimes it feels easier to cave ya know then bother correcting it but guts now say, nah, take the damn time to correct the order LOL survived and good but another reminder of don’t lose focus thru darn inconvenience and just annoyance when it comes to MY ZC plate of food when eating out :sunny:

CarniOctoberfest or whatever name is coming at us soon…everyone hold on thru Sept and we will ROCK strong into Oct ZC style!


#371

question cause I KNOW you guys KNOW this and I don’t.
I never bothered with learning calculations at all. All I ever did was plop in info in carb calc but in the end that meant nothing cause I ended up in carnivore anyway!

calculate protein fat ratio. no clue. I know I can look it up but I know you guys can answer fast too

my sausage links label. 14 links in package, I eat 1/2 so 7 links in the amt I would eat. Laughing a bit too cause package says 7 servings, are they kiddin’ :scream:, it is 2 servings to me :clown_face:

what would that be?
am I eating a 80/20 ratio? a 70/30 or a 60/40 protein to fat ratio?

I am not using this for some control I wanna do, I am just darn curious on a meal like this and what it is :sunny:

thanks all for info to come!


#373

show calcs for me if ya can please
how ya get that?? :partying_face:


#374

Eggs day. Ate half a dozen eggs, 150g short cut bacon, 100g tin of tuna drained out the olive oil.

Keto eating and some slip ups at serial dinner parties over the long weekend. Generally on plan. But human psychology amplifies the mistakes. Glad to be back to cooking and total control of my own food today.

Too long looking at screens today, however. Had to take two aspirin before checking the forum. Working on a public submission about future development in our nice, local village. The city planners want to fill it full of tourist accommodation 6-storey apartment blocks. Ended up with a blinding headache. Wrote a lot about the importance of trees and green spaces in town planning.


(Edith) #375

1 sausage = 60 Cals, 4.5 grams fat, 4 grams protein

4.5g x 9 cals = 40.5 Cal from fat (68%)
4g x 4 cals = 16 Cal from protein (27%)

New Edit:
Percentage = (Calories from fat or protein / Total Calories) x 100
Percentage of Calories from fat = (40.5 / 60) x 100= 67.5%
Percentage of Calories from protein = (16 / 60) x 100 = 26.7%

If you add the two together, they should equal 100%, but they don’t.
67.5% + 26.7% = 94.2%

So, there must be some calories from carbs not showing up on the label due to the portion size. It’s that little labeling cheat that says if the amount of carbs is less than 1 g, they can say the carbs = 0g.


#376

no need to blur that cause IF carni’s love this ALOT OF times they can not buy water packed ever in their location and IF ONE drains and DOES OK on them, more power to ya, eat ALL you need :slight_smile:

FB ya gotta remember one thing, IF WE ZCers can eat a ‘tad off thru a few bites of this or that’ but we 'never GO THERE! BACKWARD ever on full meals and you DO OK for you, YOU DO NOT have to report that ever!!! In that only time you need to ‘seek help’ in our support group is IF YOU are losing it thru your little bites of this or that ya know.

We can not ever expect to be perfect ever but ‘what is out level’ of control ‘that suits us’ SO YOU must leave, literally! this thinking in the dust.

I said many many times I do a 1 bite maybe when I feel it suits me and foods I feel are safe ya know and ALL US CARNIVORES have to walk our food journey that…it is about you and little you have in condiments and keeps you on plan, no issues, mean SQUAT! cause this is YOU doing what suits you.

This falls to ‘leave the damn azz ‘dieting’ bullsh** behind you’ and GAIN THE strength you have on ZC to find that balance without that ‘darn punishment not perfect on plan’ but you are doing so well and doing ok for yourself.

key being, ANY time you feel off and a ‘real draw’ into the food world that doesn’t suit you…yes you come here and ALL OF US can chat ya up CAUSE WE all are there literally WITH YOU!

Now you stop you on ‘this dieting thought not perfect crap’

you graduated my friend literally into the ‘carnivore life that works for you’ and do not ever have to pretend that some oil olive drained off some sardines, which IS a stellar food ‘needs’ to be reported if you are OK on it :shushing_face:

time to let the past go on punishement or redemption or accountability that you feel means alot but suits you so well, and IS NOT a meal, just a bit of ‘side spice, or oil, or whatever condiment’ that DID NOT draw you off plan.

WE AS CARNIVORES must move this way thru life.

YOU ARE THERE FB! I feel ya are and time to cut slack to you about ‘being perfect’ to the lifestyle plan’ in its’ guidelines and find the little that suits you.

I found nothing truly but strong admiration as how you have changed in your personal journey thru zc and you shared tons with us and we chatted all thru it and I am so there with ya on it all! But man I think you are ‘here’ and time know just that!

I see you as one who has changed SO much in feeling the body and manuevering thru life’s event and food outside our control and ‘events’ and more that FB at no point now do I ever feel you 'need help or support in ‘trying’ to succeed ZC lifestyle. YOU ARE THERE!

ok this JUST MASSIVE chat from me to you but darn FB you came a long way baby thru the years on this thread and your changes and I send nothing but darn big KUDOS to you. Now you cut you a darn break please!!!

You are such a big draw for me on this thread and all thru your zc walk and changes but NOW IT IS time to SEE YOU TRULY are here and who you are on this lifestyle…you aint no newbie ever now FB to me. You made it all the way in my eyes FB and let go of the ‘wanna be’ doubts cause there are none from what I see…I see ZC stength and draw on just that moving ahed as you need for you!

:heart:


(Judy Thompson) #377

Looks like 8g protein vs 9g fat, would be nearly equal. Google says 8/9=88.8888889 percent. So about 90/10?
Sounds good to me!

My daughter is headed to Maui today and yesterday I went over to pick up her pup, Opal, for the week. I’m hoping to see if Mimsy’s calmer with another dog around, especially when we leave her home.

@Shinita your post made me sad. I know only time can make it better. Condolences and calm to you.

Yes, @Fangs,now that you mention it I was confused by them calling 6 pcs of wings Six Wings. WTF?! If 2½ wings is a meal for me, that explains why I’m hungry 2 hours later. Food out is hardly more than social nice-itude though so one has to expect that meal at home later.

I have a sous vide pork tenderloin and a sous vide whole beef tenderloin in the fridge so I’m good for a few days! I’ll steam another ½ dozen eggs for the next couple days later.

Mimsy is at the groomer and I’m in Whole Foods with a Liquid Death water and a package of Kerrygold cheddar. A fine breakfast!

Teaching later, Mondays are good here!


(Karen) #378

@Fangs I have been eating both chicken and duck eggs. I love duck eggs and was looking to buy some more on Saturday but the shop only had small ones and at £2.50 per half dozen i am a bit miffed to have yo pay same price if they’re small ones. I I buy extra large chick eggs which cost more than the large which cost more than the medium which cost more than the small :thinking: figure that one out … lol… I will wait for the biggies to come back into shop. The duck eggs are a bit stronger in taste than chicken eggs just as goose eggs are stronger tasting than duck.

I prefer to hard boil the chicken eggs over duck eggs as I can time them just perfectly at 8mins and they come out with a bit softer yolk, not so dry. I can get hiccups with very dry hard boiled eggs.

Scrambly duck eggs are the best especially made with butter but I don’t mind scrambled chicken eggs and fried or omelette are okay with either.

There you go my comprehensive egg banter x

@JJFiddle … I so want that doggo, so so cute, I need Opal in my life !

@Naghite Michael do it, go buy some i am loving the mussels, rollmops and cockles, they just seem to cut through the grease taste sometimes left behind after eating meat. Plus I have just become addicted to them which i would rather be addicted to mussels than was cheese :smiley:


(Linda ) #379

Really depends what your going for …for how Amber and Kelly doing 80/20 we take our ideal body weight ( not the current one. Unless your goal weight)…(because we going lower protein) we take the government min of protein needed for our bodies .8g (some using .7 g)( if your athlete working out more you may prob need more) then times that by ideal body weight…that gives you your protein req… then for fat you times your protein by 2.2 most just using 2 but some finding they feel better at x3 or times 4 protein…then divide that by your meal numbers …most of us trying to eat 3 …4 seems too many for alot but 4 if that works…also remember calories do not matter lots of ppl gone from eating 1200,1400 calories to almost 2500,3000 depending on meat…

To make it really simple for most of us we trying to hit aprox 30 grams protein per meal and 90 grams of fat per meal… since the last Kelly video ppl going even higher on fat…

I’m def not hungry im Def in ketosis and body composition is def changing… choose what ever source of fat you want but keep in mind dairy except butter is still the one that stalls most ppl as like any other version of carnivore…

I personally am not up quite that high in fat yet I can get to about 160g /180g per day as I adapt more ill prob increase it…
Perfect ratio meat is pork belly some getting it sliced like bacon…some air fry it…


(Megan) #380

Hey guys. Blood test results are in. I won’t include them all, just the key stuff (everything not included was normal).

Urate: 0.35 mmol/L ( 0.14 - 0.36 )

TSH: 2.1 mIU/L ( 0.27 - 4.20 )

CRP: 3 mg/L ( < 5 )

HbA1c: 36 mmol/mol ( < 41 )

Cholesterol: 5.3 mmol/L ( < 5.0 ) H

Triglyceride: 0.9 mmol/L ( < 2.0 )

HDL Cholesterol: 1.08 mmol/L ( > 1.00 )

LDL cholesterol: 3.8 mmol/L ( < 3.4 ) H

Chol/HDL Ratio: 4.9 ( < 4.5 ) H

Ok, urate almost out of normal range, it’s been in the middle of the range pre-carni.
TSH normal but boy am I pissed off! I asked him to do a full thyroid panel b/c TSH tells us squat when it comes to a few things that could be going on for me physically.
CPR normal for the 1st time!!! This woe has reduced inflammation in my body.
HbA1C normal. Went back through the last 6 years, it’s always been normal, as has my blood sugar. Does this mean I am not currently insulin resistant? Probably not (see further on in post).
Not bothered about my cholesterol being a bit high. But whoa, 1st time my Triglycerides have been normal (except when I was vegan) and only the 2nd time my HDL has been normal/not too low. Do I need to be worried about the LDL and the Chol/HDL Ratio? LDL is a bit lower than it’s been in any other blood test, except when I was vegan when it was within normal range.

Doc forgot to tick some boxes he said he’s tick (like ANA and DNA for lupus etc type stuff - my ANA has been abnormal several times in the past) so I’m pretty dang annoyed b/c it means I need to go back and re-request some stuff. He also refused to order any test/s to check my insulin level b/c my blood glucose and HbA1C has always been normal. Do doctors know nothing? Blood sugar and HbA1C starts going up much much later on after insulin has been too high for a good while.

I’ve switched my eating to the same protocol Azi/Linda is following. Not finding it easy b/c I hate butter, ghee and raw/cured/cooked beef fat. Super fatty pork is a saviour but I’m having to rely on things like cream cheese to get more fat into me, which (I’m told) is far from ideal. I also drink a lot of heavy cream b/c I drink a lot of coffee. Again, not ideal (I’m told). And I’ve been getting just as damn stressed as I was when I 1st started keto - tracking, measuring, testing BG and ketones etc.

So!! I’ve made a couple of decisions. I have a good idea what 30 grams of protein looks like when it’s a piece of beef or pork or bacon and eggs etc, I’m going to add fats I can handle eating without wanting to PUKE (which is what butter etc makes me want to do), I’m not going to measure blood glucose or ketones, and I’m going to give it a couple of months.


(Mary) #381

Hi - I’m Mary. I’ve been lurking on this forum for a few years, making only the occasional comment. @MeganNZ suggested I come over to this thread after posting on another thread I started yesterday (g’day Megan :clap:).

Anyway, I’ve evolved to carnivore from low carb and keto in an attempt to heal my IR and maybe, just maybe get rid of the excess weight I’ve been hauling around for years (was 80, now 50 on carnivore but refusing to shift lower). Having watched Kelly and Amber’s vid, I’m also inching towards 80/20 if I can manage to stomach that much fat. Don’t get me wrong - I’m quite fond of fat, particularly when it’s air-fried numminess) but 80%???

So hello - I probably still won’t post much but be assured I’m reading everything.

Cheers!


(Karen) #382

Welcome Mary nice to meet you. :heart:

I got to bed last night and knew I hadn’t posted yesterday but felt tired so that was that, no post. Anyway yesterday ended up a fairly busy day. I went outside for my usual fresh air, brew and read and then the cheek of it, it started to rain! How rude, so I had to pack up and head inside. Fortunately it started after I had finished the pages I wanted to read! While I was sitting out there I was musing over the sonar pest repellent I had purchased and put out the day before, not a cheap one either and how Mr and Mrs Rattie and, by now, extended family, had very quickly become adapted to it :astonished: How very dare them! I am praying hard about how to get rid of them and feel peace with myself at the same time!

Anyway with the rain, is it/isn’t it going to throw down I decided to give my kitchen floor a scrub. It is white ceramic and with all the frying I do these days it gets a bit of a mess and truthfully I can’t always be bothered to do it :blush: so I worked hard and got it gleaming and also the bathroom floor which I had been meaning to do for a while (that flooring doesn’t tend to show marks and grubbiness till all of a sudden it’s there in ya face when you’re sitting on the loo! )

Before I knew it, it was nearly 1pm and i felt a bit peckish. Brunch was bacon eggs and sausages again.

Popped out to help Raymond home from Doctors as he had taken a funny turn while out in the town, (he’s okay now) and popped to Bank then a few charity shops looking for a specific book and home. Traffic was queueing way back approaching my house as road works had closed one road passed my house and also further up where they’re building houses! Why do they always cause havoc shutting off 2 main roads into town. I can remember when major road works were happening in Nottingham and on just about every route in, it caused chaos for weeks!

Dinner was hahaha buffalo chicken wings again. Why is it we get these preferences all of a sudden. It definitely isn’t a craving. And yes I had some mussels again and some prawns, no yukky mayo, and then I felt peckish, as you do when eating just chicken and fish, and had some more bacon and sausages before going to bed. The sausages are only like small chipolata ones.