Whatever is a standard woe (some not healthy HCHF I suppose), I surely wouldn’t want it and my body is even stricter You are right, our own standard is very different from the mainstream but that is our standard
I never had problems with telling if I am hungry, it’s so simple, if I feel hunger, I am hungry, it’s always super weird to me that people mix it with anything else. Or was. It was super obvious on high-carb. Then I went low-carb, got more obsessed with food during the times I actually had to spend much more thinking about what to eat (my early vegetarian paleo days were tricky, I had no idea :D) and tried to eat way, way less (as I had to for fat-loss) and I suppose my body or mind got “creative”. So now I have these not real hunger signs too sometimes. But I got experienced and I can tell them apart. Besides, I pretty much ignore mere hunger, it’s not a good reason for me to eat! I prefer waiting until I NEED food, not just feel hungry or have appetite but I can’t say no to temptation and compulsion. But those are more rare now, fortunately. My end goal is losing them.
I have a hypothesis that my hunger can be artifically changed by other things. Big appetite raises it, negative one suppress it, these things. Not common but happens. If I have only boring food, I may lose my hunger too, not only my appetite.
But I have many different hunger feelings and some demands food, it doesn’t matter if I need it. It’s annoying and I suffer and can’t focus so I eat. But it’s fine if I eat the right food so plant carbs don’t mess with things. It’s quite unlikely I truly overeat so I don’t worry about gaining (but mere overeating never was enough for that anyway) - but I need to lower my calories (so, my fat intake) to have chance to lose fat. It’s how things work for normal people and I never ever experienced the opposite. I never lose fat on keto even if many of my days are carnivore unless I really do all I can to minimize my fat intake. Sometimes it’s easier but my OMAD days are rare, sadly. Those are the best, I don’t even eat at night… As I did yesterday too… Eating meat just because I fancied it and it was there was a bad idea. I don’t understand, this meat shouldn’t be too fatty but I felt “too much fat” afterwards. And I almost never felt that in my life, I handle fat wonderfully as long as there is protein with it. Why then? I felt off and had to balance things out (why I want dairy when it happens, no idea. maybe I miss them. but I eat them. but I would want more? cheese tastes wonderful now but it always does when I ate little of it in the past several days or weeks. I only know that since I dropped my already small cheese consumption and several days pass without any)…
I am super bad at forcing me to things like NOT eating when I don’t need it and am not hungry but I should learn it. Or enforce OMAD but that’s even harder. Or maybe not, I actually have control when well-fasted, not so much between my first bite and bedtime. It’s one reason my eating window should start late. When I was a kid, I had to start eating around 6am. I ate all day and was hungry a lot until lunch (that was the first meal I actually could eat a proper sized meal so that lasted even with all the carbs. the morning small ones made me very hungry. I so, so hated breakfast, one of the worst things that could happen to me. I dropped it as soon as I could but I had to get bigger for that).
So yeah, IDK what I thought when I wrote “works”, I can be super optimistic but I do think I am on the right path but things need a little more tweaking. But I don’t get bored of my meat, I eat well, I am usually quite satiated and my food is so simple, barely any work so it’s not so bad just not perfect yet. I want to get rid of my night eating, first of all.
I didn’t go back to 75kg and this is enough for me now fat-loss wise. I want chill, energy and 1-2 meals a day (0 sounds great too but it’s highly unlikely).