yea horror stories are out ON EVERY DIET that is on the internet LOL
low carb horror, keto horror, JUDDD plan horror, the Zone Diet horror and of course zc/carnivore horror LOL
There are 15 plus yrs people like Charles Washington and Dana Spencer and Kelly Hogan and Andersons who are way over 20 yrs now and more that are thriving!!! Plus remember you are not the horror story people, WHO KNOWS truly what their medical issues really are in their lives ya know or what environmental exposure and more ya know…so take horror stories truly with a grain of salt.
Think back tho what carnivore is. It is OFF EVERYTHING and reset the hormones and heal the body. So if we ‘start there’ then we can ‘grade up and change and bob and weave’ cause we KNOW thru our personal experience what no supps, no plants, no sugar, NO anything is with us ya know. We start clean. We can grow from that initial start.
So the elimination start to carnivore is truly priceless cause it gives us paths to follow and be able to make true decisions on how we need to change it up a bit or do XYZ for us.
Supps while we ‘think and guess’ we might ‘need’ without a true Dr. report for vits/minerals do you have no clue on what your ‘body needs’ ya know. And it truly can do harm vs. help but we don’t know cause without tests? who knows LOL
I think for what you think you ‘might need and guess’ about supps and putting that money there, I would opt to drop that money and put it into real live fresh seafood and meats. The value is on your food intake ya know and ‘again start there’.
Now alot of this is HOW I WOULD ROLL On how I think if one starts clean and learns how one then needs to progress it is a simpler issue than starting into carnivore more jumbled with ‘what ifs I take more of this or that’…just a personal view on how I see it so take that too with a grain of salt
One of THE BEST ways to find our best path is to chat it out like this in forums. Just chat up what ifs, and maybe do that and when something clicks with us we can move forward and try new situations…so I love chatting this stuff out with you
Since you are NYC do you think, if by chance?? in any way would a meat order delivery company like ButcherBox etc. be cheaper than buying in your stores? Have you looked that way at all on having delivery come from online and ‘maybe that could’ end up being cheaper in the end from your expensive NYC stores and restaurants? I know pricey locations are tough!!!
What a carnivore needs in simplicity is fresh meat/seafood/fowl/fish.
Supps (and who knows the true quality of those things you are getting in truth) and what ‘good you guess they do’ isn’t worth it, IN MY MIND to give up real good food intake.
Carnivore supplies ALL you need. Vit C requirements on carni are lower and we get vit c on carni. All those ‘save us supps’ and ‘save us anti-oxidants’ are things people might require when we ate TONS of sugar and were wrecking our bodies or having ‘inflammation issues’ with plants like lectins or oxalates and more and us zc people don’t eat that junk anymore, so ‘our requirements’ on ‘what we need daily’ will absolutely never be a standard normal for what is ‘recommended on a SAD menu or even a plant based menu’ and all the ‘experts who recommend’, ahh, those experts right? ugh
One thing everyone on zc and doing so well told me was to put in the faith on the plan. I did. Yr 4 and no supps and feeling the best I ever friggin’ have on an eating plan and of course being older now, yea I feel younger also
But these are truly things we have to process and think about ya know. How to move forward. What to drop? Add? Change our eating and more and alot of that is told by us from our bodies if we truly listen and zc gives us that with time on plan.
And think a month–at least–Off all supps for 1 month. A few weeks never shows much to effect a change, and the ‘first few weeks’ off supps could be more of an adaption where ya get icky results a bit and you think, darn, but if you had gone a few weeks more you would have great results…so bit longer term thinking cause changes never go ‘according to the time we slap on them’ LOL
I am enjoying this chat with you