Carnivore nutrition

(mole person) #4

I’m curious, why are you considering this?

(Robert C) #5

Weight loss

Carnivore (muscle meat only version) is an elimination diet that - almost as well as fasting - will bust a plateau or (if not at a plateau) moves the needle faster than just Keto.

(Robert C) #6

In this case - I’d get quarterly blood tests and supplement as necessary.

(mole person) #7

That’s a really good idea.

(mole person) #8

Well, I doubt I’d supplement. I’m not convinced that supplementing isn’t actually the opposite of healthy. But, blood tests are a good idea. I could track levels and compare it to various diet changes and physical states of health.

#9

Keep in mind that on carnivore your body works differently, even than standard keto.
I found this interesting:

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#10

Also, just personal opinion backed up by nothing other than my gut, I think alternating back and forth on a compressed schedule might lead to more discomfort than progress. I’ve switched from keto to carnivore back to keto and now am kind of lazy carnivore. It takes a bit of adaption each switch to keep my stomach happy.

(Robert C) #11

I think supplementing is case-by-case.

If you restrict yourself in some way - it might be worth considering.

If I moved way north (restricting sunny days) and was testing low on vitamin D - I would look into supplementing before I would jump in to a tanning bed.

Also, I guess the blood tests could guide somewhat - if you are low on X and X is high in bone marrow, brains, kidneys etc. - you could eat more of that.

(mole person) #12

Thanks!.. I’ll watch this today, I like this guy a lot.

(mole person) #13

I’m really not certain that supplements don’t do more harm than good. The evidence for benefits is terrible and there is a lot of evidence for increased disease and mortality with many of them. Until I see better evidence or I actually feel sick I won’t take something that I basically consider a poorly tested drug.

(mole person) #14

I think this is how I’d be inclined to use blood tests. Especially if I’m actually feeling symptoms that are considered related to a deficiency.

(bulkbiker) #15

Most just eat meat… some have liver too…
Have you watched the full suite of videos from the Carnivore Conference on @amber 's youtube site?

(mole person) #16

No, I have not. Thank you!

(bulkbiker) #17

Some stunning presentations… well worth a look!
Enjoy…

(Khara) #18

Great video, thanks! The info on fiber and oxalates alone is priceless. I’ve read about these before but this format makes it easier to share.

(Chris) #19

Going to invoke @amber on this one. Set aside some time!

(mole person) #20

Will do. Amber is a favorite of mine. She seems to control her bias and stick to the evidence extremely well. She’s also sharp as a tack.

I’ve seen you post that first one before and I’d bookmarked it but still haven’t got to it. I’ll watch it tonigh too. Time to set aside crap tv and take in some knowledge.

(Elizabeth ) #21

Well since none of the long-term carnivores that are super healthy and fit do anything but eat muscle meat, I’m not worried about it. If you have some genetic variant or a proven deficiency you might want to add in some oily fish once in awhile. But I don’t have concerns about any deficiencies. Eat meat drink water

#22

My DNA is pretty much all northern European (Irish, Scandinavian, German) with a very heavy dose of Neanderthal so I’m not too worried about it. I do eat liver, thinking of incorporating some other organs as the opportunity (and sense of adventure) hits. Have really been considering ordering cod liver to try instead of the oils; I have some concerns about fish oil supplements.

(Elizabeth ) #23

Why not eat sardines or salmon or mackerel occasionally?