Broccoli

(Jill Cherni) #9

No I only read what you wrote, didn’t pay attention to any link, sorry! Will go there now. :wink:

For from Him and through Him and to Him are all things, to Him be the glory forever. Amen Rom 11:36

(Jill Cherni) #10

Wow Gregory, very interesting. I’m going to hold off on them guys a while! I have developed a taste for them since they are “good for us” but after reading this…hmmm I’ll have to change games plans for now until I read up on that some more. Thanks for the info.

(Gregory - You can teach an old dog new tricks.) #11

At the risk of sounding like I’m going ’ Paleo ’ on you, consider when our pre-agriculture ancestors tried to eat something like kale or turnip greens, without the benefit of cooking or a balsamic vinaigrette, they probably wouldn’t be inclined to try it again except in times of famine.

Also consider, that 99% of what you find in the produce department today, didn’t even exist in a recognizable form 100 years ago…

I think there is a clue in the fact that kids don’t want to eat a lot of vegetables that are touted as healthy…

They should have a natural attraction to things that are " healthy "…

(Bunny) #12

Lol…and it can also kill cancer in humans without killing the human and mimic fasting in humans.

I would drink Sulforaphane by the gallons if I could get enough of it and as a matter of fact people already do, more beneficial than harmful to humans. Also neutralizes bad xenoestrogens and leaves the good estrogens alone in the body.

Sulforaphane is also anti-glucose so it burns up glucose in the blood stream to mimic fasting and helps the liver mitochondria in the production of ketones.

You just want to make sure you get enough idione after drinking Sulforaphane because it will drain iodine storage out of the thyroid.

As a matter of fact I have my own little recipe similar to Dr. Rhonda Patrick’s on how to get the Sulforaphane out of the broccoli by cutting the little sprouts off the head then put them in the blender with purified water and then chop them up, (wait 15 minutes for the Sulphoraphane to be released) then warm them to about 60 or 70 degrees then throw in ice cubes and chop again, then drink. A Sulforaphane smoothie!

See also my post:

Sulforaphane & NRF2 - Dr. Rhonda Patrick

#13

Has it crossed your mind that we evolved into modern humans because of processing foods? Instead of in spite of.

(bulkbiker) #14

Depends how you define “processing”… cooking grains and vegetables no doubt makes them more palatable and eatable possibly but creating the disaster of current ultra processed foods appears to be pushing us in the opposite direction.

#15

At last something we agree on. :grinning:

(Gregory - You can teach an old dog new tricks.) #16

No it hasn’t ( crossed my mind), because very little if any human evolution has taken place in the 10,000 or so years post agriculture…

In fact, the changes that occurred post agriculture were largely detrimental.

Neolithic Revolution

Despite the significant technological advance, the Neolithic revolution did not lead immediately to a rapid growth of population. Its benefits appear to have been offset by various adverse effects, mostly diseases and warfare.[86]

The introduction of agriculture has not necessarily led to unequivocal progress. The nutritional standards of the growing Neolithic populations were inferior to that of hunter-gatherers. Several ethnological and archaeological studies conclude that the transition to cereal-based diets caused a reduction in life expectancy and stature, an increase in infant mortality and infectious diseases, the development of chronic, inflammatory or degenerative diseases (such as obesity, type 2 diabetes and cardiovascular diseases) and multiple nutritional deficiencies, including vitamin deficiencies, iron deficiency anemia and mineral disorders affecting bones (such as osteoporosis and rickets) and teeth.[87][88][89] Average height went down from 5’10" (178 cm) for men and 5’6" (168 cm) for women to 5’5" (165 cm) and 5’1" (155 cm), respectively, and it took until the twentieth century for average human height to come back to the pre-Neolithic Revolution levels.[90]

#17

I agree regarding grains. I was referring to processing edible foods as beneficial to our evolution.

(Bacon is a many-splendoured thing) #18

Processing in the sense of smoking or curing meat, fermenting dairy, and sausage-making is probably older than agriculture. At least, it seems a reasonable guess, though I’m not sure that there would be any way to prove it.

#19

I’m sure it is but it isn’t older than crushing nuts.

(Gregory - You can teach an old dog new tricks.) #20

That’s what teeth are for… Were they losing their teeth?

#21

Lol. You should ask yourself the same question. Did humans skin animals with rocks and then knives because they were loosing their teeth? :wink:

(Joey) #22

Choose one over the other?!

FWIW, I put raw broccoli (along with a bunch of other veggies, eggs, meat, cheese) in my spinach salad nightly. Becomes my side salad to go with my butter-drenched steak, sizzling burger, sausage… ;-). :vulcan_salute:

p.s. - our yellow lab snarfs up the broccoli stems tossed in his dish. Goes crazy for it. Perhaps he’s into a canine paleo thing?

#23

He’s a yellow Labrador. Prime directive is to eat. They have a greedy gene inherited from their Chesapeake Bay Retriever ancestors to lay down body fat for buoyancy and insulation. Not the best test for paleo broccoli discernment. :laughing:

(Joey) #24

Fair enough. To your point, there’s virtually nothing we toss in his dish that he doesn’t snarf down (sauerkraut, olives, steak gristle, cucumber, carrots, bacon grease, …) with the possible exception of his vet-prescribed overpriced kibble, which he will rarely touch unless we starve him. :dog: Rescue dogs never know which keto scraps will be their last.

#25

Thanks for sharing your broccoli Lab tests.

I started “Billie” our black Labrador puppy, 6mths old now, on a puppy paleo diet that is very keto in ingredients: fatty beef mince, sardines, suet, eggs, full fat yogurt, chicken frames and chicken necks. I got a 12kg bag of expensive brand-name puppy kibble as per recommendations and she would leave that in the bowl. These days I just use it as a garnish. And will stop it all together when the bag is done. She is a really healthy and energetic pup. Surprisingly, she is not a snarfeler. She is a slow eater despite growing larger each time she has a nap. Broccoli is yet to pass her lips.

Is SomeGuy Broccoli your vegan alter-ego?
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(Bacon is a many-splendoured thing) #26

With our Lab, the problem is not what she’ll chow down on, it’s what’s going to come back up later. :scream:

#27

Totally agree…if Cave Toddler started sticking any bitter greens they found in their mouth I doubt the human race would have lasted very long! And of course they are hard wired for sweet tastes- breast milk is sweet.

(Andrew Board) #28

In my opinion broccol is one of the bests vegetable! I put them in all my recipes of salads :smiley: