Best tasting, cheapest, totally keto soda you can buy ☺️


(Dirty Lazy Keto'er, Sucralose freak ;)) #1

Yes, okay, I can and do drink a lot of just straight ice water. But with my dinner, I like a soda…
Unfortunately most diet sodas use Aspartame which doesn’t taste great… And a hand full use “all natural stuff” which also does not taste great… Like Stevia…

So a while back, I found out that Shasta diet sodas were sweetened primarily with … Drumroll please… Sucralose ! It’s about stinking time a soda manufacturer caught a darn clue !
Then it took me weeks to find it. But today, about a mile from our house, at a WinCo, I found Shasta Diet Cream Soda, and Shasta Diet Root beer for only $2.79 a 12 ok ! So I had to buy a full case of each for only $11, and OMG ! It tastes exactly the way I expected it to… Perfectly sweet, zero after taste… And for little more than .20 cents a can :wink:

This stuff is so good :slightly_smiling_face:

https://images.app.goo.gl/sj1Fo93XFyaRwbfT7


(Tyler) #2

Wow I had no idea there was any diet soda that had anything other than aspartame. I drank diet A&W root beer for years but after startling Keto I realized how it was causing serious cravings as well as slowing down my weight loss. I need to do some reading on Sucralose. I’d like to know if that would have the same negative effects as I sure miss my root beer. Even an occasional one would be great. Thanks for the info


(Failed) #3

I got all excited about this, then I looked on their website to see exactly what sweetener they use. Unfortunately, they add acesulfame-K along with the sucralose. I don’t know about anybody else, but acesulfame-K leaves a horrible sickeningly sweet aftertaste in my mouth.


(Robert C) #4

I poked around a bit on sucralose.

FDA and many other health monitoring organizations have found it safe. But, they check only for toxicity, not anything about negative effects on the body.

Dr. Axe has a bunch to say about it:


(Dirty Lazy Keto'er, Sucralose freak ;)) #5

You have to see where on the list the ingredient is… I’ve been drinking Gatorade Zero’s lately, where Acesulfame K is the “primary” sweetener, and not even those bother me. But with Shasta sodas, that is the very last ingredient… Probably like .02% of the total. Seems kind of odd that they think they need any at all ?


(Dirty Lazy Keto'er, Sucralose freak ;)) #6

IMPO, that article is complete BS. Sucralose is “at least as safe as any artificial sweeteners” and maybe moreso.
And even more importantly, it tastes great, and has zero effect on insulin for most everybody that wants to actually test for it, then be honest about it.
And BTW, Splenda is pretty good, but yes, is does gave a few carb cals… Which is why straight Sucralose is even better :slightly_smiling_face:
PS, I’ve done more than “poke around a bit”… I’ve read hundreds of articles on artificial sweeteners, and I have mostly seen a lot of vague, unprovable stuff about it.
I put it in the same bin as the whole “High cholesterol will give you a heart attack” idea…

I read it on the internet, so it must be true :smiley: lol


(Robert C) #7

It only takes a little provable stuff to be a real problem - and if you’re willing to always omit potential gut issues - you may never find anything.

You might want to introspect a bit on this. I do not know if you do or not but, if you have a personal bias - you can read just about anything and ignore it (and the fact that the articles number in the hundreds should tell you something).

Personally, I gravitate to things that say coffee is good (due to my own bias). I might read about coffee being bad when I am thinking about quitting or cutting back but, as is likely with all humans, I want confirmation I’m doing the right thing. I find solace in it’s current vast amount of usage and 500+ year human usage (ipso facto human trials).

I am not sure there is anything about artificial sweeteners that could put one’s mind at ease against the rather regular march of studies that keep finding issues with them.


(mole person) #8

This is false. Every test of sucralose except those done both fasted and in the absence of other calories shows a significant and large effect of sucralose on insulin.

So unless you are fasting you’re bumping up your insulin by hitting the sucralose every single time.

I think you’re still confusing people testing their fasting blood glucose with a test of insulin. It was explained to you in detail by several people here why these tests are completely inappropriate and tell absolutely nothing about insulin response to sweetners.


(Dirty Lazy Keto'er, Sucralose freak ;)) #9

Their is always the bias thing. And this coffee I’m drinking right now is “really good” :slight_smile: …especially with 8 drops of sucralose, a little maple and vanilla extract, and a good shot of heavy cream ! :wink:


(Kristen Ann) #10

I think it’s interesting the FDA found it safe because ingested sucralose supposedly isn’t metabolized. But this study found that it was metabolized and stored in the fat of mice.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/15287394.2018.1502560

In your opinion. I wouldn’t say there’s scientific evidence of that.


(Dirty Lazy Keto'er, Sucralose freak ;)) #11

Ilana, you could be right. But the fact is, ‘if’ artificial sweeteners are hurting me, I wouldn’t know it. I feel great. My weight loss is just about finished. Energy is good. And I’m enjoying the heck out of my food :slight_smile:


(Dirty Lazy Keto'er, Sucralose freak ;)) #12

Maybe I should have said, “personal evidence”… which is far more important to me anyway :wink:

Dirty Keto is where it’s at :slight_smile:


(Kristen Ann) #13

Yes I have lots of “personal evidence” that poultry is inflammatory. But I wouldn’t recommend avoiding poultry to the normal person lol.


(Dirty Lazy Keto'er, Sucralose freak ;)) #14

Love me some dead bird too :slight_smile:


(Robert C) #15

I think that may have helped - remember this is a public forum.

Your title and original post are pretty positive on this stuff.

Without support you are putting sucralose in high regard.

Maybe mentioning “Although controversial - I find it tasty and it does not cause me issues” or something?

You did mention you’ve read up on artificial sweeteners so, I doubt that you would recommend sucralose for 5 year old children. Just about any mention of sucralose being something to look into would be good.


(Dirty Lazy Keto'er, Sucralose freak ;)) #16

I don’t have kids, and so I really have not ever looked into, or considered any possible risks of artificial sweeteners with kids. So I wouldn’t recommend them one way or the other. But if I had to guess, Id say they are no more dangerous for kids than they are adults.


(Robert C) #17

While I agree it has a risk of being dangerous for both - it is likely more dangerous for children.

Malnutrition, alcohol, cigarettes, unsafe drinking water etc. affect the growing body differently than a full grown adult. I think the same would be true of artificial sweeteners.

I personally would never recommend any artificial sweeteners for children.


(Dirty Lazy Keto'er, Sucralose freak ;)) #18

Probably smart. But I also would not recommend loads of sugar and crappy processed garbage for kids either. Especially if it were in their genetics to be overweight, and not active…


(Full Metal KETO AF) #19

Sugar and artificial sweeteners are both unnecessary. The concept of sweet treats is leftover psychological addiction to sugar. Conquering it is the next step after quitting carbs and sugar as significant food sources on keto. Being enthusiastic and proud of dirty keto is a compromise to your health purely based on hedonistic pleasure over food as sustenance, saving a little cash, and being a bit lazy seeking out healthy choices. There is a huge difference between organic and not, wild caught vs. farm raised, processed and manufactured vs. natural real foods, and concocted keto “treats” over good meat and vegetables. I’m not perfect and the lines blur for me occasionally but not as a lifestyle choice thinking the only thing that matters is limiting carbs and loosing weight. I will drink a diet soda now and then on the rare occasion I eat out, I buy some vegetables non organic because some are way worse than others for pesticide residue. I eat wild caught salmon only because farm raised salmon are fed antibiotics, and a grain heavy diet. Wild salmon feed on other fish and that’s where the high omega3 fatty acid content in salmon comes from, they don’t manufacture it in their bodies and that’s the whole point of including fatty fish in your diet. Sure it might taste the same but what happens in your body has nothing to do with taste. Dirty keto is a compromise at best, not a superior way to go Chris. Oat bran and flax meal breads are high in estrogen, not good for an aging male. I buy locally farmed organic vegetables, usually cheaper for many of them than at a place like Safeway paying for conventional produce. Things I will buy not organic are cauliflower, avocados, broccoli, cabbage and a couple others. Things I avoid are tomatoes, peppers, strawberries and lettuces as they have large amounts of multiple pesticide residues, up to 15 really toxic ones on peppers and strawberries, some of the worst offenders. I know you think it’s futile to try and keep all the chemicals out of your body, but taking control of the worst stuff can go a long ways I believe. Apathy about food choices isn’t the answer and the quest for improving your health is paramount for everyone who wants to live a longer life. You have to fight for that and not let the crap bury you sooner than necessary. Keto works because it heals your body. You could be keto drinking Wesson oil, protein powder and white sugar if the macros are correct you will be in ketosis and loosing weight. That doesn’t make it healthy. That’s an extreme example granted but it makes the point clear that there is a lot more going on than “If it fits my macros and I loose weight that’s what counts”.

Sucralose is 600 X as sweet as sugar, Acesulfame potassium is 200 X as sweet as sugar, that’s why they are in tiny amounts. Artificial sweeteners are combined to try to closer resemble the taste of sucrose because none of them are perfect replacements for the taste of sugar. The small amounts don’t mean they are less harmful, just that they are 100s of times more sweet on the palate and potent chemicals. Is sucralose gross tasting if you put a teaspoon of it in your mouth? They are chemicals, not foods. We will continue to try and educate you and hopefully you do some real analysis rather just being guided by your taste buds and scale results. I won’t quit telling you because I do care about a brother Chris. :cowboy_hat_face:


(Dirty Lazy Keto'er, Sucralose freak ;)) #20

Everything you have said sounds good on paper, but in reality, I’ve lost weight, feel great, and totally enjoying the food I eat more now than I did before Keto. It’s been a win, win for me.

Might I end up with cancer, or some other hideous disease ? Sure, but it’s not a lot more likely than you, or anyone else here… Except maybe for my exposure to a close relative of agent orange many years ago. Kind of surprised I haven’t already developed cancer… But that experience is just one more thing that tells me how random and unpredictable cancer (and other terrible life altering diseases) really are. Sometimes even the people that you would think should get it, don’t, while health freaks do. Just makes no sense.