Yeah we have one big event called “The Melbourne Cup”, the one day where productivity goes out the window right across the entire country while employees and their bosses organize bets for a horse race. It’s on in 2.5 hours.
That reminds me I better hurry and get a bet on that damn kiwi nag called, “Who Shot the Barman”, a classic name for a horse!! 
DUH! Less a strategy than a life goal.
Australia Day (Jan 26), beloved of bogans ((mostly)-urban rednecks) everywhere…
Is it good in the wet? It has SMASHED down here for the last six hours. Gonna be insanely wet underfoot (underhoof?), which will be crazy tough over 3200m.
I have absolutely no idea if its good in the wet, it should be it rains alot in New Zealand, didn’t even look up the odds. 
I liked the name WTF do I know about horse racing??!!
It’s a Kiwi donkey!! 
Its paying $51 to win. I hope its a fast donkey cause I just put $50 on its nose!!
That’s never stopped anyone, I’ve noticed…
And if it’s a dud, we can turn it into steaks and eat it at Thanksgiving (he said, deftly getting his post back on-topic
Yeah, I know most of the ingredients can be adjusted without much problem, but I was thinking the ‘bread’ replacement would probably be the hardest myself. … I convert a lot of things over to Keto-Friendly versions, but none have been bread-based, so this may take some thinking.
Damn it lost!
My wife reckons it should be re-named “Who shot the husband”!
About 13 years ago I lost 50 pounds on Atkins in less than a year. It all went out the window at holiday time. It’s taken me until now to seriously start over. Now I boycott all holidays and avoid eating with others. I’m too susceptible to the pressure that comes with all that.
This is excellent. At a large gathering, if you’re helping in the kitchen, playing with/looking after the little kids, spreading kindness around in various ways, nobody checks to see what’s on your plate or in your mouth.
ME TOO!
I’m too susceptible to the pressure that comes with all that.
Oh, I’m not, I just hate people.
I have a very similar history. Success with Atkins but backslide to carbville on the maintenance phase. This is why I’m not shy about beating the drum that “cheat days” are more pernicious than the mere physiological consequence of a day off. As if we’re robots.
I do, however, dearly love holidays and family time. I just eat a whole lot less now.
Not sure what I will do on Thanksgiving although I am sure I will go over my keto carb limit. With regards to the symptoms you mentioned afterwards I can relate what happened to me a few weeks ago. For what it is worth, I am also doing 20:4 IF as well.
The wife and I went out on Saturday for our anniversary and being the classy people we are, we went to one of the nicer AYCE Asian buffets here in the Seattle area. I knew I was going to eat more than I normally do, certainly in the carb/sugar department but I also knew that I would enjoy the foods as an unusual treat. Mind you, as someone who could eat a whole chocolate cake with ice cream and milk or see a box of Capt Crunch as 2 servings at best, I loved my sugar. These days though, I find that while I don’t crave those things, I do enjoy them more when I have them than I ever did before.
Anyways, I ended up treating it as OMAD and ate a lot of things that had carbs in them from the various wraps in the steamed buns, shumai and potstickers to the 2 bowls of ice cream with strawberry and chocolate sauce, cookies, rice crispy treats, chocolate dipped strawberries, creme brulee and cakes. I enjoyed all of it as well as the various meats and such (the bacon wrapped shrimp were a surprise). If I had to make a guess I would say I probably ate around 4000-5000 calories and probably 400 or more carbs easily.
On Sunday we went bowling in the morning and it was about 12:30p when we finished and we went to Sizzler and had the AYCE salad bar and I again treated it as OMAD but had similar fare, probably closer to 3000-3500 calories and again with around 300 or more carbs with the pasta and breading on chicken wings and tenders as well as ice cream, bread pudding, apple crisp, bread and such.
The result? Saturday when i left work (where I weigh myself) I was 243 pounds. Monday morning when I weighed myself I was 249 pounds. Now obviously a lot of that is bloat and increased water weight but none of what I did derailed me. I just went back to my 20:4 IF and eating keto and after working 12 hour shifts all week and 8 on Saturday, I was back down to 243 on Saturday all while eating 2000-2800 calories during the week with zero exercise. I did find that my lower back pain seemed to come back and I think that is similar to when Richard has talked about going off the wagon and having his knee pain come back for a few days because by the end of the week it was fine.
For me it didn’t cause any relapse or hunger pangs or anything like that but I am not everyone else. I have been able to deal with it and maybe in part because while doing 20:4 IF, I do get periods where my body thinks it is hungry during the day and I just manage it. Drink some more water and it goes away.
YMMV of course though.
Every December, I have 3 aunts who love to bake cookies and give them out to relatives. I literally had hundreds of various cookies last year. This year I am politely telling them, that while I love their cookies, their cookies don’t love me and I must decline.
LOL! Many times in the past I would eat a small mixing bowl’s worth of my favorite cereal and call it dinner. Those days are gone for good.
This in encouraging. I’m sure I can curb the pangs with a fatty snack if necessary and I also have been on a schedule of 18/6 2x a week, OMAD 4 days a week and one 36-48 hour fast a week. so getting rid of that extra glycogen and water shouldn’t be a problem. Thanks for sharing.
That’s not so much merely a personal experience, but a result based on simple biochemistry. You have to completely recompensate, then chronically overcompensate glycogen levels before your body even begins the process of storing fat. It is the Science. Any weight gained over a day or two of carb intake is not fat. For people to dispute this merely means they need to know more about the actual biochemistry of lipolysis and lipogenesis, rather then relying of whatever Keto doctrine they’ve been taught.
90lbs in 9 months 8-9 years ago. Low fat, low simple carb moderate protein. I was cycling a ton and always hungry. I maintained for several years. But cardio exercise was massive. Once I lost some time for that in combination with getting sloppy with my diet I gained most of it back. This time around it’s different once again. Harder and easier… discipline seems easier. Time for cardio isn’t quite there yet. Thus I plan to avoid set backs this holiday season.
Would you mind posting a picture of that recipe? I’d like to try and sub things out and make it Keto if thats even possible. It sounds so yum interesting!
Since your horse didn’t win and being Keto I think we can find another use for him…
