Any ideas why this happened?

(Dan Dan) #21

Most likely you are not allowing enough recovery time between Fasts :thinking:

When doing short IF or 24 to 48 hour EF recovery is usually one to one :astonished:

When doing long EF recovery is usually two to one and can take longer depending on health :astonished:

:slightly_smiling_face:

(From XL > Medium) #22

Can you explain what “one to one” and “two to one” is please?

(Alan Williamson) #24

Here is the technical reason: https://www.facebook.com/TheMusclePHD/videos/1373925149397555/

Yohimbe is what bodybuilders use to increase adrenaline for fat loss in the belly fat.

(Dan Dan) #25

one to one is hours fasted x 1 example : 48 hours fasted x 1 = 48 hours recovery

two to one is hours fasted x 2 example : 120 hours fasted x 2 = 240 hours recovery

:slightly_smiling_face:

(Dan Dan) #26

Yohimbine should be administered with caution to patients with high BP, especially in individuals with evidence for increased basal sympathetic outflow or those undergoing concurrent treatment with tricyclic antidepressants or other drugs that interfere with neuronal uptake or metabolism of NE. :disappointed:

(From XL > Medium) #27

What do you mean by recovery?

(Dan Dan) #28

Time between fasts :wink:

You also have to add any workout recovery.

Time it takes your body to repair and adapt.

:slightly_smiling_face:

#29

I have normal blood pressure and am on no medication other than synthroid. I am trying to lose a few lbs before next weekend for a big event. Thoughts on whether this is worth taking?

(Dan Dan) #30

My personal opinion is that anything that raises BP is a no go especially if you are dieting.

#31

Thank you

(Jack Brien) #32

There could also be a postural aspect. Stand side on to a mirror and pull yourself upwards as if from a rope tied to the top of your head

#33

If you fast for 120 hours, you must eat normally for 240 hours before fasting again.

(Naomi Brewster) #34

lol - I’m watching my belly roll slowly recede like a melting glacier - when I first started the roll sat low over my pelvis bones and now I can see those - still have the roll but it’s just higher up. I expect that it will keep receding the more I loose - I’ve lost 40kilos and have another 30 to lose so there’s still time. It is fun to see the changes slowly coming on but I doubt you can target one area or another for fat loss.

(From XL > Medium) #35

I am not understanding what you mean by the body needing to repair and adapt.
From what I have leant, fasting is built into our biology (like all living things) so the body can readily deal with it.
Is this not true? Or it isn’t the whole story? Or have I misunderstood something?

(Dan Dan) #36

I am a simple man so I will explain this simply :thinking:

There is a huge difference between surviving and thriving :open_mouth:

IF/EF Keto WOE is all about THRIVING :grinning:

With IF/EF Keto WOE we adapt our body to burning fat as its primary fuel :sunglasses:

With IF/EF Keto WOE we consciously eat (or don’t eat) so we can understand how what we eat (or don’t eat) effects us both physically and mentally :thinking:

Fasting is like building muscle you stress the body then allow the body to recover. If you don’t recover properly you see little gains. :muscle:

Everybody is different so everything works differently for each of us, it’s up to us to discover just how different we are :slightly_smiling_face:

IF/EF Keto WOE is Self-Discovery :wink:

(From XL > Medium) #37

Is this a scientific fact? If so, can you point me to where this has been proven?

(Lesley) #38

Was all that fasting taking place in just that six week period? I’m no expert, but if so, from what I have read and learned, that seems too much too soon. Maybe slow it down a bit now. Give your body time to adjust and recover from the stresses and changes it has gone through in such a short period of time. There’s a difference between fasting and starving yourself.

(Naomi Brewster) #39

Hi @magsilon, I am not sure if this is what @dan_dan had in mind but Dr. Valter Longo discusses in this interview how the re-feeding period is when the rejuvenation happens in the body - fasting/calorie restriction turns down the stem cells and induces authophagy and apoptosis but re-feeding is when new cells are generated.

(From XL > Medium) #40

I have recently watched this great video (very informative and eye opening) and yes, what you say is what Dr Longo talked about. But also in this video, Dr Longo said, in response to his interviewer, that its not fasting that stresses the body, but eating. I cannot remember if he said this as something he has proven or whether it was a “perhaps” thing.

So I am confused because from everything I have read so far, it seems that fasting is an inherent long standing part of our biology (as it is in all living things), so why should engaging in it stress the body? Perhaps, as I said, I have not understood this subject clearly or fully.

(Doug) #41

A C, if anything, I’d think fasting is stressful when we are not used to it, especially when we are used to burning carbohydrates for energy. Toward the end of the first day, we run out of carbohydrates to burn, and need to switch to burning fat. If we are not ‘fat-adapted,’ not used to using fat for fuel, and/or significantly insulin resistant, then we’re not able to access our stores of fat very well; stressful as the lack of energy eventually makes our cells feel like they’re starving.