Another Carnivore Thread

#1082

Good to hear on not pushing a fast. I agree with Fangs and what a lot of carnivore vets say: if you’re hungry eat, especially in the beginning.
So I would say, if you’re determined to fast please don’t set an amount of time. Just eat plenty then wait until your body says feed me before eating again. I noticed that the hunger signals improved when I went keto but changed even more when I went carnivore. Yes, I was meat heavy keto but cutting out the last of the plants really changed a lot of things.

(Ashley) #1083

I will keep this in mind as I move forward thank you guys :slight_smile:

#1084

Keep us up to date. Would love to know how you’re doing.

(Ashley) #1085

Just broke my fast! Was getting hungry so broke it a hour early!

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this is just my starter plate :slight_smile: I already ate half of it before I took a pic as well! Broke the eggs to dip my steak in!

#1086

@monsterjuice Ashley, that looks delicious! Like others have said, you’re doing great. One of the greatest things about keto and carnivore is learning to listen to our bodies instead of our taste buds, lol. If you have a lot of weight you want to part with and your body wants to fast here and there then go with it. I’m doing IF 18/8 but not on purpose. It’s just how keto and carnivore work out for me. Especially with a 2:1 fat to protein intake I get stuffed fast and it lasts for hours.

#1087

But my taste buds are part of my body :smiley: It’s bad when I don’t particularly like the taste, I don’t actually desire the food, the compulsion comes from somewhere else. Many people can’t resist free food, something just being there (especially if it’s a rare chance for that), habits, eating when we need something very different, so many silly things may have power over someone.
I honestly can’t imagine not eating tasty food all my life. It’s basic. I think I never changed my diet without loving my food at least as much as before (but usually more, at least when I realized how to get all I want). Temporal hardships happened but the food was good. But I love the taste of most type of food anyway and do my own version of every diet I do. (My current carnivore style isn’t the right one for me, it’s just what I have at the moment but the food is still awesome. Except the tasteless fish tomorrow but I do what I can to improve it. Challenges are enjoyable too. And experiments.)

I am back on track! I managed to eat carnivore today, probably dirty but I had to taste something and I won’t stop eating some onion soup with my poached eggs in it but I avoid the big vegetable parts. The onions are tiny but that’s spice/condiment. I won’t overcomplicate this now, okay? It’s my new, relaxed, more realistic way, I didn’t even planned this, just some close to carnivore for a little time and who knows what later. But it’s too easy and if I stray, it feels worse. Okay then, I come back and stay.
At least I do what I can but my absolutely serious rule only that my first meal is carnivore. That’s normally 60-100% of my daily intake and no way I can mess up things later after such a meal (problems usually arise if I start with the wrong food anyway, even without the huge satiation after a substantial carnivore meal).
I tried to use this rule before but now it’s easier. I wondered about the “I eat my first meal when I get really hungry” (not very hungry, just really, not slightly since one minute while I felt full before) rule but that’s still not realistic. I have my sacred family lunch at 3pm (I feel compelled to eat if I can), I am theoretically ready not to eat if I am not hungry but my body or brain manage to make some little hunger around that time (I really got hungry around there for several years but it changed lately). And then I eat too little, usually and never meet my real hunger. I start to miss it.
It was better before as it was holiday and my SO ate his lunch around noon and I almost never can eat that early, not even on a wrong diet that makes me overeating horribly, not even if I went to bed slightly hungry. I can eat very late but that doesn’t feel good the next day. I am a natural late afternoon/early evening eater or something. I can’t wait to see what my eating window will do on carnivore. I got 16/8 on low-carb and 19/5 on keto, automatically, I hadn’t even any idea IF a thing with a name back then. Only my less than complete satiation and silly desires at late hours could mess with that sometimes. It’s not natural or good but got more frequent, started to form a habit, that’s one thing I want to get rid with extreme low-carb, stupid late eating, almost no matter why and what, it’s wrong. Fine if I can eat only at night on some day and I am really hungry. I had a tiny carnivore snack last night and today I felt it wasn’t a good idea.

I barely ate today, I just wasn’t hungry but I enjoyed my food (mostly eggs) very much. Unusually much. It was awesome, better than almost everything I ate in the last week and I practically always eat tasty food.

Sorry, my mind is uncontrollable now. I want my mind off these things for a while. I eat so simply but still think too much about it, it’s still too new and exciting unlike my other parts of my life, sadly. I need to do something about that, actually. That’s another “responsibility” of my new woe. I do a drastic change and it helps doing other improvements as well, it stirs the stagnant waters of my life.

#1088

Hi all - I’ve been keto for a year and decided to try to eliminate dairy for January because of sciatica issues. It’s helping already and has only been about 5 days. Since I’m keto with no dairy, I’m drifting more towards carnivore. I cook for the week ahead and don’t care for veg reheated so tend to avoid veg. My question is - how do you not get bored? I cooked up steak, sausages, kielbasa, chicken thighs, and beef roast this week. I’ve been eating that stuff this week along with a few servings of roasted cauliflower, a couple of avocados, one serving of roasted asparagus, some eggs, etc. I used to enjoy dipping my meat in ranch or blue cheese but with no dairy I’m not doing that. Today I had a bit of mustard. I know this isn’t true carnivore, but each time I’ve tried to do this, I have the same issue with variety and getting bored. I did buy a cookbook but it’s not here yet. Any advice? I’m also not enthusiastic about eating fat on top of my meat like I read y’all are doing. I do eat the fat on my meat, but worry I don’t get that much fat. Interested in your advice - thanks!

(Full Metal KETO AF) #1089

Okay so I am just starting a dedicated Carnivore trial, I’ve been eliminating plants for a few months over time. Now I am down to spices and that’s a tough one for me to completely let go of. But I am trying it out.

On the thing with boredom I have been wondering myself, no spices?..and looking at my reasons for trying Carnivore in the first place. When I started KETO 16 months ago I cooked up a storm of complex KETO dishes. I was a professional cook most of my life and have foodie taste buds. There’s two parts to eating, physical needs and psychological attachments to the eating experience. I thought the Carnivores were completely crazy and doing something very unhealthy when I first got on this forum. I couldn’t imagine it, no vegetables or spices? Spice was the Variety of Life for me. Funny twist. Well over time I have simplified and thought lots about eating for entertainment and how that’s pushed on us for profit. I still love spice variety but it’s the final step for me to eliminate now. I know many do Carnivore with them but my choice is going all the way because they could be affecting my body without me knowing it. I’m heading purely into eating for fuel. I enjoy just salted meat if I don’t think about it much and I’m really hungry, and not thinking about what would taste good. I’m just taking care of the hunger and focusing on the feeling of satiety without too much focus on the actual eating experience. I’m still using up some sausage and stuff I have now but not adding anything to fresh meat anymore. So it’s been steps for me. Just trying to look at food from a different angle. :cowboy_hat_face:

#1090

I am a meat eater and seafood lover to the ultimate. This is the food I was born to eat and eat big I do :slight_smile: I have to say loving meat is a draw into carnivore for me. So when I walked here from extreme low carb I never had one veggie I missed in my life truly.

Yea I missed some foods and got bored not having ‘sides’ with my meals and maybe no snacking cause heck I did that forever in my life. It is engrained into you to have variety. It is part of us. It is a hard habit to change.

But years now being carnivore and I have to say I learned one simple thing. The simpler I go the better I do. Big steak. Done. Big pile of snow crab legs and butter. Done. I don’t ‘cook meals’ anymore except do some meals for the family still cause I have to but for me I just keep it super simple.

And I learned the more simple I stayed the better I did. The more I dropped wanting foods. Oh yea I get the ‘oh woe is me’ some days but I can brush them off easier now being on plan so long. I know a big old steak will fix everything for me and it does. All I have to do is eat it.

So being a massive meat/seafood lover is part of my strength on this plan.

Spices etc. I use a few. I dropped so many. I used to love a bit of fresh minced garlic on my steak when I started years ago…like not even a 1/4 teaspoon when frying up a steak but one day it tasted so sweet. I just found it nasty…so I stopped the minced garlic. Every now and then I want a spice, like taco spice taste. I can simply add a teaspoon to some hamburger meat, eat it down and I never want that taco spice again for another 6 months :slight_smile: So I just eat as I find I want with spice etc and it is rare I use it at all but if I desire it, I have it.

Also your appetite becomes so controlled on carnivore that when you do eat again, you have the meat/seafood you desire and after you are just in that ‘zone of fine’ with the foods you eat. Kinda like you just know you don’t need to expand and you don’t get bored like you think you truly will.

Boredom happens more in the beginning, realizing all those foods we stopped eating but as you are longer on plan and don’t sway, you realize you don’t truly need that other stuff.

Just some things on how it went down for me.

#1091

What happened to my coffee addiction?

(Ashley) #1092

Anyone here have trouble staying asleep? I had this on keto, I normally only sleep 5-6 hours anyways, but for some reason the last few nights I’ve had very interrupted sleep. My eyes feel tired but my body doesn’t.

(Edith) #1093

I had a tough time with sleep during my first carnivore trial back in may. This time around I am sleeping much better.

I don’t know if it was an adaptation thing or maybe not eating enough my fist time around.

#1094

This is going to sound very counter-intuitive: the more options you have the quicker you get bored. It’s like putting a kid in a room full of toys and they just sit there. There’s so much to choose from that they easily get bored with each thing. When you trim down to pretty much just meat, only eat when hungry, and don’t try to make food entertainment then it’s not boring at all.

Maybe carnivore isn’t for you, or maybe not just yet. It’s a total change not just a diet. Not to dissuade you from trying it but unless there is a reason to go carnivore then meat heavy keto may just be the ticket for you.

#1095

I had awful sleep on an earlier carnivore trial. Like Edith, I’m not sure if it was a transitional thing but this time when I went back I limited then cut out cow dairy and have so far avoided processed meats except occasional bacon. Not sure what the ticket was but I’m now getting the best sleep of my adult life.

(Ashley) #1096

Glad to know maybe I’ll adjust to it!

(Ashley) #1097

I had it with keto for awhile too so hopefully it adjusts like it did then!

#1098

Thanks for the replies - I will probably keep going the way I have been for now and see if I gravitate to more true carnivore, but for now carnivore keto seems to do okay. I think for now I’m going to focus on the dairy elimination and see how that goes - can’t do too many new things at once.

#1099

Definitely. Trying to fix everything at once can drive you crazy.
There’s absolutely nothing wrong with meaty Keto. In fact, unless you’re trying to heal something that keto couldn’t then full carnivore is not necessary.

Most of us who go full on with this are doing it for very specific reasons.
That said, it is world carnivore month, and 30 days is not long if you wanted to give it a go.
We’re a pretty supportive bunch around here so keep us posted whatever you decide to do.

#1100

Yea I so agree. Too much and you don’t know the good from the bad. Slow changes means you truly see the effects.

Dairy is so weird for so many. Some handle it beautiful, others can’t handle even a little. So you will know when you eliminate it and add back later what it does to you personally.

carnivore keto is great but if you truly have some issues, eliminating plants could truly help you. again do the elim. type thing and just work it out all for how it suits you best! You can never go wrong doing you the best ya can :slight_smile:

#1101

RA RA SISS BOOM BA!

no clue how to type that out but I am always cheering for every carnivore out there HA

HOO RA! ROCK ON! THAT’A BOY! hee hee