Aches and pains- can I help myself more here


(Shannon) #1

Hi! I have been eating the Keto lifestyle for a month now and have really enjoyed it. I love the way my body is changing form, the satiating feeling I feel after a meal which is a completely new feeling to me, and the feeling of “control” I have over my diet. I’m all for this as a way of eating, rather than a diet, and want to continue down the road of success with it.
My question is that I am experiencing a lot of aches and pains in my shoulders, neck, back, etc. and I’m wondering if I can do something to alleviate this. Now I should say I have had chronic pain for over ten years, so this may very well be something I just have to deal with. However, in the beginning of eating Keto I felt very relieved of these symptoms. Do you think it’s just hormonal/something that will happen, or could I be eating something that causes this?
I have been walking again, about 2 or 3 miles a day, but it’s pretty relaxed exercise and literally just pushing my daughter to the park and back.
My diet does not include dairy other than the occasional HWC and butter. I eat mostly plain things, chicken, salmon, pork, beef and very little veg. Some things I do eat on the regular that aren’t so basic in ingredients are a BPC once a day, this new honey smoked salmon I found from Costco, one Almond Butter cup from Choco XO a day. The rest of my diet is meat, butter/oil, eggs, and a small about of spinach.
Thanks!


(squirrel-kissing paper tamer) #2

Hi there. Are you getting your electrolytes like salt and magnesium? Are you staying hydrated?

I tend to get achy (in my old injury spots) when I’m overdoing it or not staying on top of the above things.


(Shannon) #3

Definitely staying hydrated (75 ish oz a day at least) I think, and have been putting pink salt rocks under my tongue throughout the day as they do make me feel better. I also use the potassium salt in my food.


(Shannon) #4

Oh, and I take magnesium at night.


(squirrel-kissing paper tamer) #5

Great. I found that the extra potassium gave me muscle cramps. For me, keeping up with salt and mag keeps the other electrolytes in line. Also, chicken broth is a nice boost too.

What kind of pain is it?


(squirrel-kissing paper tamer) #6

Now that I think of it, I had an incident really early on when I forgot lunch and ate cream cheese and peanuts for lunch (and I was strictly no nuts/legumes) and got the worst body aches, like all I wanted to do was lay down. I stay away from peanuts now but it was a higher carb lunch which may have had something to do with it. Sometimes I think almonds don’t agree with me either so I only have one or two here and there.

Are you doing anything differently this week that you weren’t in the first two weeks? Do you keep a food journal? It may help to determine if it’s food related.


(Shannon) #7

This is good to know and I will give it a break and see what happens. I should say I also eat some avocado too, which I know are nutrient rich. The pain is similar to a nagging ache, throughout my upper arms, upper and lower back and neck. Pain that isn’t debilitating but definitely doesn’t make you feel your best. Stiff. Achey.


(Shannon) #8

The new thing I have added is the salmon, which is so delicious but I will give it a rest and see what happens. I know this isn’t a miracle diet (wish it was!) but I feel so much better cutting the carbs that I just want to eat what my body wants, if that makes sense, not what makes it hurt.
Thanks for your help!!


(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #9

Avoid the seed oils—soybean, cottonseed, Canola, sunflower, corn oil, safflower, peanut, etc. They have too much polyunsaturated fat. The ω-6 fatty acids are particularly inflammatory, if ingested in any quantity, so naturally they are a very high percentage of the “vegetable” oils on the American consumer market.

For cooking, use butter, lard, tallow, bacon grease; save the fruit oils (avocado, coconut, olive) for salad dressings, mayonnaise, etc.


(Shannon) #10

Thanks for this. I do this other than the very occasional store bought mayo in rushed situations, but have not had it for at least a week. I use butter, olive oil and bacon for cooking and yes, avocado and vinegar for salad.


(Carl Keller) #11

Hello Shannon.

In addition to what @PetaMarie ane @PaulL say, I’ll just say that getting some sodium and getting enough sodium are completely different things. When we restrict carbs, we excrete sodium at a far greater rate than we are used to.

Two+ teaspoons of sodium over the course of your day is a good starting point. Anything less than that usually rewards me with cramping in my legs. I believe that most keto flu symtoms will not occur if this electrolyte is properly maintained.


(Shannon) #12

I am going to start measuring out my salt tomorrow and put it in a little dish so I know how much I’m getting. Thank you!!


(Carl Keller) #13

I hope it helps Shannon. :slight_smile:


(Shannon) #14

Thank you, me too!! I cannot tell you how much of a difference this WOE has changed my life. I haven’t lost a lot of weight but I am SO less bloated and feel so much better. This website has been amazing and informative. Right now I am nit picking how I feel, which is amazing. I feel well enough for the first time in so long to actually refine the details!!


(MooBoom) #15

What’s the carb content on this new addition to your diet? I’m a bit concerned by the word ‘honey’. Can be surprisingly loaded with sugar, and bear in mind the food companies to tend to fudge the reported sugars/carbs in their favour.

If you’re feeling worse since adding it in, maybe cut it from your diet and see if that’s the cause of the issue?


(Running from stupidity) #16

The word “honey” means it won’t be THAT much of a surprise :slight_smile:


(MooBoom) #17

I was trying to be kind :shushing_face:


(Running from stupidity) #18

I gave up on that a while back :slight_smile:


(Shannon) #19

Nutrition facts say 0% carbs per serving, which I weigh and measure to one serving a day. I was also concerned but thought the fat to protein ratio was decent and also the no carb. I understand honey was in the ingredients, but thought the 0 carb negated this? Thoughts? (Also, I’m not sure how to link but if you search Costco Honey smoked salmon that’s it.


(Shannon) #20

Huh. I stated I was a beginner and trying to learn-- reaching out for help? Funny to have to chose to be kind. I check labels, saw zero carbs and am not over eating it… I’m here to learn, as we all are right? I don’t see riddled with sugar if there are no carbs, but maybe I am mistaken?