You can eat keto fast food with no problems. Eat all the burgers you want, just ditch the buns. Salads with full fat dressing. Roast chicken is excellent as well, and even eating fried chicken occasionally is fine. Once adapted, like me, you can eat it all the time. Hard boiled eggs and mayo. Smoked turkey legs used to be available at places like the TA.
350 lbs - Extended Fast advice
JayRay
(Jeremy Reynolds)
#22
I’m fine with eating fast food without a bun, but I need a regime. Structure. And I probably can’t eat fast food, bun or no bun, for every single meal.
I need autopilot. No thinking required, I have little to no self control. A pattern to follow to do every day.
I can diversify amd be creative later.
Right now I need a healthy kick start into the process of being in ketosis so I can stabilize myself mentally. Then, while on the fat burning engine, I can expand from there.
bhowell
(Boatner)
#23
Watch the protein; I’m referring to your kidneys… If you are susceptible, you could get into kidney disease. I don’t do fear stuff but be sure to add that fat. In the keto business, a fridge is your friend. You can get into snack mode with cheese, boiled eggs (you can get a bag of peeled boiled eggs at Walmart), pork rinds, MCT oil or Extra Virgin Coconut oil for your coffee (neither rinds nor oils need be refrigerated). If in a pinch at a truck stop, 2 scrambled eggs and some bacon is super. Omelettes, such as western (has a bit of tomatoes but probably is ok) or a ham and cheddar cheese omelette. Watch out for beef jerky! You need to read the nutrition labels for carbs.
Fats will fill you up and, they digest slowly so you will feel full longer eating them. Now, when you are in Ketosis, you will eliminate your fat through your breath, sweat, and from quite a bit of peeing. You also need to keep up your hydration and salt. Poweraid Zero can become your friend here.
Just some thoughts.
Boatner
Baytowvin
(TJ Borden)
#24
I was on the road all the time when I started Keto. I stuck to eating a lot of summer sausages (don’t need refrigeration until they’re open, and I’d usually eat a whole small one for a meal), and macadamia nuts. When I’d stop to fuel up I’d grab hard boiled eggs if they had them, and small packs of cheddar cheese, or little meat and cheese cups if they had them. If you’re in an area with In & Out, you can order a 3x3 as a lettuce wrap. It’s not on the menu, but In & Out is famous for most of their offerings not being on the menu. Jerky is also great, you just want to find low sugar options. Many have a surprising amount of sugar added.
I also tried to focus on stopping for a big dinner. I’d keep an eye out for steak houses or casinos. Casino buffets are great for loading up on meat and salad as long as you can avoid the carb traps sitting there too. I usually skipped breakfast and lunch and focused all my per deim $$ on dinner.
I would wait to fast until you’re fat adapted. It takes awhile to get there. I tried fasting several times when I first started for the same reason. I was anxious to get started, and I was pushing 500lbs (now down to 430). When you’re not fat adapted, the carb cravings take over and end up hitting so hard it’s damn near impossible to not just eat whatever you can find.
bhowell
(Boatner)
#25
I just remembered, some non refrigerator food that is good for this: Believe it or not, canned Spam is low carb and high fat; it also has plenty of salt, canned sardines (I forget the brand but the one with the Norwegian King on it) are low carb and higher in fat. Vienna Sausage, Dill pickles, Watch the canned smoked oysters… as always read the labels.
The trick with the labels for me is Total Carbohydrates - fiber = net carbs.
Single serving packaged tuna. Look for the ones packed in olive oil (to add fat) if possible; Same with single serving packs of salmon…, cans of Anchovies, I think you get the idea.
If you are on target, Mission makes low carb tortillas (for the smallest 3 net grams per fajita tortilla) but be careful as those things can add up and cut into your carb allowance pretty fast.
Michel_Labelle
(Michel Labelle)
#26
@JayRay, if you look on the forums here I have a post about starting Keto with Soylent then KetoChow. That’s how I transitioned in myself.
While I agree that you should eat real when you can, KETOCHOW is a great way to transition in, so start there. My guess is you will make the full transition to fat adapted in 6 weeks if you follow the 2 KetoChow meals a day plus a good salad with just oil and vinegar, a steak/chicken leg/hamburger patty/pork chop etc… and butter (with lots of salt!) regimen, you will be fine.
Many are commenting without having tried the product… I agree, it is not for everyone, nor should you stay on it indefinitely. That said for someone on the go (Travel, or 16 hour days if work like you), it is near perfect. Heavy cream is available everywhere, so don’t even worry about making it in advance, or keeping it cold. Make what you need, when you need it. That said, if can make it in advance and keep in a good thermos it tastes better. While you are at Walmart, stock up on Macadamia nuts, pork rinds, and some other keto snacks for between meals till you adjust.
As far as water and hydration. Buy a bottle of Apple Cider Vinegar (2 tsp) and some lemon juice (1 tsp) per 8-16 oz of carbonated water (free at most Soda stations), and you will do fine. Consider 2-4 large glasses a day, but it will make you pee. And honestly, the whole keto diet is going to challenge your bladder more than anything else. As keto causes a lot of water to flow from your loins…
When you make the shift to being fully keto adapted, you can consider reducing to 1 KetoChow meal, then skipping entirely and doing only real food.
I haven’t had to go back to KetoChow in a few months, but I have my stash in reserves as part of my emergency kit. For me that is when work gets crazy and food breaks are not an option. Sort of like yourself.
And more importantly, thanks for being such a key linchpin in our economy. I worked in transportation for 10 years, and you guys and gals are severely under appreciated.
Keep calm, and keto on…
WD5CW
(Chris Ward)
#28
@JayRay You have great places to start via this post.
The following is what I did. I had a Colman iceless fridge with me and carried bacon and eggs. I had a cast iron skillet, a Colman burner, and a couple of plates. I bought a coffee pot because I’m a coffee snob. I would have salads with the best salad dressings I could find at the time. If I was hungry while driving I’d eat 2 pieces of cheese with butter. Sometimes I’d have a little nut butter on a spoon. During my 30 or at night I’d cook bacon and eggs. Then after I finished my 14 I’d have my salad and go to bed.
I have a driver now who is on the warrior diet he eats OMAD and fasts the rest of the day and does well. I fell into doing that on occasion. After, 5 months I started adding a fast in got up to 4 days almost even week. They reduced what I had to carry and how much I had the clean.
Let us know how the challenge is going after a few weeks.
I also live in Dallas and drive for big orange,
kembry
(Kenny Embry)
#29
Yeah, not overdoing the protein and sticking with fats. Cheese, nuts, and eggs are friends. If you like avocados, use them.
You should start feeling full faster once you get past the carb withdrawals. THEN fasting is so much easier.
kembry
(Kenny Embry)
#30
Hey, also if you listen to podcasts while driving, check out some others as well. The 2 Keto Dudes podcast is really good, but not the only game in town.
Keto for Normies
Livin’ La Vida Low Carb
Keto Talk
Obesity Code Podcast (mostly about fasting)
And as others have said, Walmart and some smart fast food choices are all you need to get this done.
JayRay
(Jeremy Reynolds)
#31
These are all great replies and I thank you all for your input. Truly a great community here and I will post the results as well as other questions.
The first one being:
How will I know what stage I’m in?
And
How does the keto-flu differ from signs you need to take action for? Because I’m prepared to mentally ignore being sick. Lol.
WD5CW
(Chris Ward)
#33
Best way I have heard to beat the Keto flu is salt, salt, salt. Also add MCT oil a tbl at a time. (Don’t over do it at first or you will find yourself in the worst rest areas.) if you are currently using a Keto “product” and have not experianced then likely you will have past that stage. As far as fat-adaption you will see the ability to fast naturally.
Baytowvin
(TJ Borden)
#34
I hear you on ignoring signs of being sick. That sounds like me, in which case you’ll probably get through Keto-flu (carb withdraw) pretty easily.
As far as phases, I’m sure it’s different for everyone, but I realized I was fat adapted when my appetite all but disappeared yet I had a lot of energy. When I realized I was ready to start fasting was when I woke up one morning and realized I hadn’t eaten anything the day before, but I still wasn’t hungry.
Basic advise (without being all scientific and checking glucose and ketones); eat mostly fat, with moderate protein, and try to avoid carbs. Eat when you’re hungry, don’t when you’re not, trust that your body knows what it needs.
One of my biggest challenges when I started was feeling like I should eat, even though I wasn’t hungry. As though at 500lbs, I was lacking the stored energy I’d need to function.
You’ll also find a new type of “full” feeling when you do eat. That was a crazy sensation since the only feeling of full I had ever known was when I could no longer stuff more food down my gullet. I remember the first time I still had food on my plate (and not just any food, Ribeye) and I didn’t finish because something was firing in my brain that had never fired before telling me I didn’t need to eat anymore. It was so shocking that my wife (now on Keto herself, but not at time), asked “who the fuck are you?”
Now it’s the norm, and we always have leftovers in the fridge (leftovers were something I had heard of, but had never really been something I had experienced personally), because even after a few months, I haven’t learned to scale back my cooking for my reduced appetite.
Bacon
(Mark)
#38
Look up butter Bob Briggs on YouTube he did a good keto Walmart video and I think the keto connect channel has a Walmart video and goody beats channel,should give you some ideas on Walmart keto
bojana
#40
you will know by the way you feel, ultimately your hunger will feel differently, no longer hangry but you can hold off a couple of hours when you do feel hunger. It’s not going to feel the same.
I never had keto flu, you might not either.
Oh and I forgot to mention, canned sardines are a good choice too, crown prince is at walmart. they are boneless and skinless, in olive oil, and not farmed from Morocco. Cheapest too for that quality. those with some green olives on the side are delicious, full of fat and filling. I like to put hot sauce on mine.