2 Keto Dudes get a bit agitated then go “on ice”. Ep. 224

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#1

Wow! What a podcast episode. It makes me wonder about a few things. Like, what has happened to the low carb community to get the dudes down?

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(Bob M) #2

I didn’t know they had a new show. I was still in the middle of the previous one, which is also broadcast on The UK Low Carb Podcast, which is another good podcast. You just have to translate from UK English to US English (eg, “crackers” there are “poppers” here, or at least that’s what we call them).

#3

edited this post, I decided I don’t wanna comment after all :slight_smile:

(Jenna Ericson) #4

Someone saying I don’t worry about my diet, I just spend 2 hours a day in the gym is kind of the same feeling as I’m not going to eat bread or carbs ever again.

Feels like something to be proud of to the person who says it and sounds like torture to the person who hears it.

When you make it about curing diabetes though, and not necessarily about general lifestyle, things get complicated.

Aside from that it would be great to see other peoples’ coping mechanisms or motivations in a positive light whether or not we share them. If we feel that way toward other people it seems there’s a better chance they will respect and even admire our coping mechanisms and motivations.

(KCKO, KCFO) #5

Neither started keto for weight loss. T2D. Richard wanted to keep his toes. Carl was diagnosed with T2D and asked Richard for help. They addressed this is early podcasts. Also Richard is one of those people whose Dexa scan shows high muscle mass number…

Weight loss is not the focus of Keto for most of us, being healthy is, some of us need hormones to adjust, some need low BS nos. and others want to feel better and have more energy. Weight loss can happen, but it isn’t the focus for most on the diet. Only people wanting to make a buck off of it focus on the weight loss.

(Michael - When reality fails to meet expectations, the problem is not reality.) #6

Sorry, I can’t listen to podcasts anymore. It’s a combo of my hearing problems - I have difficulty understanding what folks are saying even when I can hear what they’re saying - and not having an hour to waste listening to something that contains 10 minutes of interest to me. I wish they had transcripts.

(Bacon is a many-splendoured thing) #7

This is certain true for me. I freaked out about the amount of diabetes in my family, and suddenly realised it was only a matter of time before I would have to go on insulin. I am greatly attached to my fingers and toes, and would hate to lose any of them, so it was a great impetus to do something.

A year on a well-formulated ketogenic diet, and my blood sugar was normal, my blood pressure and my heart rate had gone down significantly (back into the normal range), my blood work was all in the normal range (my LDL was on the high end of the normal range, but the ratio of triglycerides to HDL was very good)—and by the way, I lost 80 lbs. (36 kg) with no exercise and no hunger, and without counting a single calorie.

Sure, I’d love to lose a further 80 lbs., but Dr. Phinney says that he and Prof. Volek typically see losses of 10-20% of starting weight, and I’ve lost 26%, so I am already ahead of the game. Also, since my bulk is no longer interfering with my daily activities, my arthritis is gone, and my skin problems have all cleared up, I really can’t complain about a few extra pounds.

(Michael - When reality fails to meet expectations, the problem is not reality.) #8

We :unicorn:s really skew the stats! Doncha know most folks have to work to accomplish anything!

(KCKO, KCFO) #9

I just switched my support for the podcast over to more money for the forums. Which hopefully won’t be going anywhere. I would be lost without my daily doses of ketogenic talk.

I urge anyone who can afford to do so to become a Patreon member
Go to Patreon.com, search for the ketogenic forums
The levels are 1, 3, or 5 dollars but you can also do as I did and set a custom amount. Running websites is not cheap, so the Dudes can really use any amount you can spare.

I used to belong to WW, but this is way cheaper per month then that was.

(Joey) #10

Loved the grievances. Lifted my spirits! :+1:

But will sorely miss the 2Dudes’ podcast … Wishing you dudes all the very best for a well-deserved (open-ended?) break for you and your families. :vulcan_salute:

(Central Florida Bob ) #11

Since I haven’t heard anyone talking about what they were complaining about, it was pretty meaningless to me, but I listened to it anyway. I guess the two keto podcasts I listen to most are Diet Doctor and Ivor Cummins’ Fat Emporer, so while I can laugh about some chef referring to caramelizing a steak, or that woman saying, “I don’t diet, I work out 90 hours/day” I don’t think it would have bothered me if I’d heard it.

Sorry to hear them going back on ice, but totally predictable with Richard’s return to his grad school track. The content has been pretty light since they started back up, anyway.

#12

I’ve been out of touch with the low carb community for a few years. I reached a peak of what I needed to be successful and didn’t continue to tune in. While Richard and Carl might not want to name the low carb anti vaxxers, does anyone happen to have a list to hand of who these people are.

(Michael - When reality fails to meet expectations, the problem is not reality.) #13

Dr Robert Malone, who invented the mRNA ‘vaccine’. What do you intend to do with your list? Ostracize everyone who happens to agree with the geneticist who invented it that experimental mRNA genetic treatments are neither safe nor effective when misused as vaccines?

(Robin) #14

Yikes! That was out of left field.

(Michael - When reality fails to meet expectations, the problem is not reality.) #15

Asking for a list of low-carb anti vaxxers was out of the ball park.

(bulkbiker) #16

All the sensible ones who have questioned the dietary narrative and now question the big pharma narrative?
The ones that “follow science”.

#17

thanks for the info about them doing what they do

#18

So if you don’t want a barely tested vaccine you’re not following science? The reason I jumped OUT of that line was BECAUSE I was following science.

I got my antibodies… I’m as good as somebody that got an mRNA vaccine that can still get COVID just like I can again.

Hopefully my flu shot works, way more faith in that! Can’t stand the re-definition of “anti-vaxxers”.

(Bob M) #19

You realize that mRNA vaccines dad been in development for years, correct? And that 100+ million people have gotten the mRNA covid vaccines?

(Michael - When reality fails to meet expectations, the problem is not reality.) #20

@lfod14 you may have misunderstood @MarkGossage. Mark replied to @Scottishguy who wants a list of so-called ‘low carb anti-vaxxers’ presumably so he can ignore their low carb advice because they’ve questioned the efficacy of mRNA so-called ‘vaccines’. Scottishguy apparently remains unaware that these mRNA so-called ‘vaccines’ neither protect one from contracting the disease nor prevent one transmitting it to others. And is also totally unaware that the geneticist/inventor of said mRNA ‘treatments’ has publicly stated that misusing them as ‘vaccines’ is neither safe nor effective.

@ctviggen Pay attention.