What you are doing is great though - you are trying different approaches and tracking what happens. Hopefully, you are keeping good notes because it is so easy to forget! Keep tinkering and trialling something new for say a month at a time.
There is something that balances out re your protein question. I do not have the science at my finger tips. Maybe go to the Carnivore section and ask @amber who is the absolute go to on all things ZC/Carnivore. The lecture that she gave at KetoFest was fab and should be up on YouTube soon so you can check it out. You might want to track down the podcasts she has been on. I forget which ones now apart form 2KD but she was on one just recently. Maybe she could give you a list.
I know what you mean re ZC groups. It might well be that you havenāt found the right one yet or the right ZCer to discuss it with. I get the evangelical aspect of finding something that works so well for you that you want to shout it from the rooftops and make everyone do the same. However, life is messy and we are all different. Why donāt you make your next trial a mix and match of keto and ZC each week and see what happens. You could factor in then your social times to be within keto and days on ZC. Whether this has an impact on the protein question would be another question for @amber.
Do you get bloated with everything else? You could use your period of ZC as a way to test your reaction to foods. @Brenda did this. Using ZC, especially without dairy, is a great way to do an exclusion diet. She kept things really pure and simple and just ate steak if you remember! But how great is that as a base line to then test the hell out of everything afterwards? maybe that would be a good next project and you can draw yourself up a list of all the foods with reactions next to them. This is another thing that I would like to do properly. Such a useful exercise and a way to decide whether that mountain of clotted cream is worth a coldy feeling the next day! It is FYI!!! Annoying enough that you donāt want to be doing it all the time though. Re your bloated feeling - if you could narrow that down to specifics, it would be really useful no? Same with the lactose as we were discussing earlier.
I detest the tedious nature of tracking plus it is annoying for me to do as I donāt have a mobile phone so ballache! I like the idea of a list of foods, tailored to me and listed in different categories. Like a traffic light system say. I have been weighing and noting content of foods on and off for so long that I am pretty good at guesstimating well enough to avoid the trackers. Very useful in bursts of experiment though. All this chat is firing me up to get down to it myself! So what is your next move?
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