What was your moment, when you absolutely had to change?


(Jeff Davis) #41

I’m 38 years old. When I was 35, I went to the doc for a routine physical. My blood pressure was high and my liver enzymes were elevated. My doc told me I needed to lose some weight (I was, at the time, about 230 lbs, at 6’3"). I did nothing. A few months later he put me on blood pressure medicine. I still did nothing. I knew about low carb eating and believed in the science behind it, but never could stick with it.

Last fall, at another physical, my liver enzymes were so elevated that my doc ordered an abdominal ultrasound. The result: fatty liver. My doc also told me that he suspected that I was insulin resistant and on my way to T2D. That scared me into action, as I have three young daughters. I read some Mark Sisson and Jimmy Moore stuff. I stumbled onto the 2KD podcast. In October and November of 2016 I ate “Keto-ish.” Since Christmas I have been pretty strict and incorporated some intermittent fasting (I generally only eat one meal a day now). I started going to the gym and doing some light jogging and weight training. I also cut back on my alcohol consumption.

When I saw my doc in October, he gave me some pamphlets about dieting to control blood pressure and fatty liver. It was all CICO and low fat doctrine. I threw them in the trash. I’m hoping to make a believer out of my doc.

Starting weight in October 2016: 238 lbs.
Weight this morning (February 7, 2017): 204 lbs.

I’m going to see the doc in about 30 days to have blood work done, and hopefully my liver enzymes will have fallen into the normal range.

Until then, I’ll just Keep Calm and Keto On.

–Jeff in Nebraska


(Ross Daniel) #42

This will sound stupid but about a year ago, when I signed up for life insurance and I wanted the rates to be as cheap as possible.

I knew I was overweight (31, 6’2" and 240ish, 250 at my heaviest). I hadn’t started keto yet, but I took my diet and exercise much more seriously. I had been going to the gym and “dieting” for almost a year until that point. By “dieting” I mean SAD + caloric restriction. I hadn’t done any real research, it was all the same ole common knowledge BS that everyone touts not knowing that it is false. That crap that is so ingrained in society it is “just how it is”. How could something like nutrition not already be figured out and “common sense”? Being a man of science, I had a thought one day that there simply had to be a better way. As an engineer I approach problems on a daily basis, things that should work but don’t, problems that require critical thinking.

It’s funny now, thinking back on it. I’m one of those people that obsessively researches everything. For example: The other day I spent over 3 hours researching a new dog collar for my dog. She keeps ruining the standard lupine and other similar collars and there had to be a better solution. (If you’re curious, I went with: this collar). I do this for everything. Well, everything except my diet. Once I got the feeling that there had to be a better way, it didn’t take long to discover keto. I listened to Tim Ferriss’ Peter Attia and Dom D’Agostino episodes, found the Jimmy Moore podcast, then shortly thereafter 2KD podcast, and the rest is history.

Ultimately I wanted to prove it to myself. I’ve always been overweight, classically defined as such literally my entire life. I was 10lb 13oz at birth, and in the high 90 percentile in height and weight all throughout childhood. I also wanted to set an example for my parents, whom are both extremely overweight and my father is T2D and injects insulin multiple times per day. I did prove it to myself, but my parents still aren’t believers despite me losing 60lbs. Maybe one day, hopefully soon.

As of this morning, I’m 183.4 and people tell me all the time “You’re too skinny”. Oh, and as for the insurance rate…it didn’t drop, they think I have high cholesterol.


(Arlene) #43

The insurance racket just makes me angry. At least YOU know you have made yourself healthy, even if the insurance company is only in it for the profits they can make. It’s not like any of us believe they care about our health. :slight_smile:


(Beth) #44

@rodan5150 and @farmgirl I can’t remember which, but in one of Jimmy Moore’s podcast (probably the Keto one) he mentioned an insurance company that understands cholesterol and will theoretically give you better rates.


(melartweaver) #45

Not a huge deal, but diabetes runs in both sides of my family, and we’re all “apple” shapes. (Uncle had both feet amputated, mom has it too…) A friend from college posted how he’d been diagnosed pre-diabetic despite running 30+ miles/week & eating “healthy”. He got rid of pre-T2D with keto. Fast forward to now–husband & I are both keto–he’s down 60 lbs & I’m down 22… since May '16. We’re not going back!


#46

I have been gaining weight steadily for the past 20 years, with weight gain accelerating over the past 3. At the end of 2016, the physical signs of my obesity were getting hard to ignore. One should not sweat heavily after light physical activity or have to labor to tie ones own shoes. I was 42 years old, 6’4", 305 lbs.

Christmas Day 2016 I was listening to Windows Weekly and Paul Thurrott mentioned he was going Keto to loose weight. He mentioned Carl Franklin as inspiration.

I listened to the first couple 2 Keto Dudes podcasts and really related to Carl’s story. I knew that in 10 years I would likely weigh 360+ lbs and have T2D too if I kept eating High Carb, High Fat. I decided Keto was something that could work for me. It was the first time I had ever attempted to restrict my diet in any way.

I’ve been eating a Ketogenic diet for 7 weeks now and have lost 45 lbs. My wife keeps asking me how long I plan to stay with Keto, and I really don’t know. I’m just happy with the weight loss and have no desire to change course at this point.

Finally, I am really thankful to both Carl and Richard for doing the podcast and creating the community I count on to support what I am doing.


(8 year Ketogenic Veteran) #47

@knopfler96
Your wife asked you how long you plan to stay with keto.

You pretty much have to stay with keto (or at minimum LCHF at maintenence) or you will gain all your weight back. Hate to break it to you. Low carb living is not a temporary fix.
It’s permanent.
It’s all about the insulin my friend…


#48

This news won’t please my wife! Still, I do know a lot of thin people that don’t eat keto.


(Stickin' with mammoth) #49

My “moment” lasted twenty years. That’s how long I’ve been wanting to tell this story.

I had already soloed 23 of the tallest mountains in Colorado and was heading up number 24. Humboldt Peak was arguably one of the easiest 14ers in the entire Rocky Mountain range and I was anticipating a clean victory. The trail was clear, the weather sublime, and I had undertaken an arduous journey across half the state to get here. There was no way I was going to return home without photographs of the summit.

Right in the middle of the switchbacks, not even halfway up, an overwhelming and frightening exhaustion came over me. It was a bizarre feeling, as if someone had flipped a switch and my muscles suddenly could no longer access any energy. I collapsed on the side of the trail and tried not to cry, then forlornly shuffled back down the way I had come. It was 1998.

At first, I thought I was sick. I got sick a lot. My immune system had never been stellar. I had labored my entire life under the excoriating pressure of an abusive, perfectionist family whose psychological profile was a petting zoo of personality disorders. I was running a personal gardening and landscape design business single-handedly for testy high-end clients six days a week and lifting weights heavy almost every evening. I was eating a health food/SAD diet mix, reasoning that I was young and insanely active and those two factors would render me Teflon by default. I was dating a sociopath. So, no stress in my life, whatsoever.

I didn’t figure it out until much later but my own personality disorder was disassociative. I was able to ignore enormous amounts of pain and an avalanche of warning signs despite my world crumbling around me. This worked with my friends because I got a lot of social cred for appearing mentally tough and alarmingly strong for a woman, but the combo destroyed my body from within like an exotic cancer. Examples: At one point I was popping 16 Advil a day to stave off back pain from a herniated disk so I could still build rock walls in gardens; I endured a failed lumbar puncture and worked through several days of agony before staggering into the ER; I somersaulted over the handlebars of my mountain bike onto pavement and tolerated the crazy-making symptoms of post concussion syndrome without treatment. Shit like that.

Through it all, I started noticing what Peter Attia noticed in his TED talk: apropos nothing, my athletic performance was diminishing and I was gaining weight around my abdomen. I tried Atkins but, little did I know at the time, it had too much protein in it for me so I switched to standard health food. I got more tired, more sick, and heavier. I cut out red meat, then chicken. I became pescatarian. More tired, more sick, heavier. I went vegetarian, then vegan, then raw vegan. I slammed back vitamins, sought alternative healers and naturopaths, I watched my skin go grey and my muscle tone disintegrate beneath concrete layers of fat. I tried to keep hiking and lifting weights but it was useless.

More tired. More sick. Heavier. I blamed myself for it all.

By 2015, I was unable to work, could barely shuffle half a mile on a flat trail, and was depressed beyond measure. My joints were swollen and painful, skin tags were enveloping my neck like a knobby scarf, and I slept 12 hours a day only to wake up groggy as a frat boy on a Sunday morning. Everyone I turned to for help took my appearance in with a glance and asked in a condescending tone, “Have you thought about diet and exercise?” I wanted to punch them in the throat, particularly the doctors.

But lately, I had begun to listen to the whispers of intuition telling me, “Adrenal fatigue, codependency, neurogenesis.” I researched the fuck out of each one and gradually got my feet under me. The resulting awareness allowed me to notice the other whispers, “Whatever you focus on, grows. Stop calling your mother. Sugar nauseates you now.” When I watched Peter Attia cry on YouTube that day, something inside clicked. I binge-watched 47 videos on the keto diet in one weekend and felt something I hadn’t in years: hope.

Mine isn’t the keto success story you hear about in blogs and forum posts. I didn’t immediately drop a ton of weight and emerge transformed. In fact, it seems like every measurable victory has been won after a long, arduous, fucking battle of trial, error, and frustrating little adjustments. I don’t know if this is just my own delightfully deranged metabolism or that old, ingrained message of “Suffer! Suffer! Suffer! And then they’ll clap!” rearing its ugly head again. Probably both. Teasing apart the Gordian Knot of my life has been a mountain climb from birth. Luckily, I’m a fucking badass mountain climber.

I’m thinking…it would be really something to return to Humboldt Peak and summit the mother.


(8 year Ketogenic Veteran) #50

Yep. And we aren’t them. LCHF (Low Carb High Fat) might work for maintenence, but if the SAD (Standard American Diet) made you gain it all before, it will make you gain it all again.

CICO (Calories In, Calories Out-as in, eat less food exercise more) is a myth, you will eventually regain any weight lost after the body adjusts (6 months or so).
Many of us can only keep weight off reducing carbohydrate.

It’s our particular metabolism.


(8 year Ketogenic Veteran) #51

@Aqua_chonk
You wonderful nut.
Obviously we were seperated at birth, or something. I feel like I know you. So glad you found keto. I rejected medical advice and went searching for answers as well. I’m no mountain climber, but I climb onto motorcycles.
Hey, glad you found keto. You’ll get that mountain. Easily.
I’ll be in Breckenridge in 2 weeks with the dudes. I live in Minnesota, so I’ll be spending a lot of time watching those beautiful mountains while I’m there.


(Stickin' with mammoth) #52

I’m insanely fucking jealous. I was a figure skater, too, and back in the 90s Breck had an open pond downtown where you could twirl around in the falling snow. Dreamy.

I don’t know if it’s still there but the Stage Door Cafe on Mainstreet used to sell coffee with a little sumpin’ sumpin’ extra in there. They had these upper floors with nooks and crannies and spots to get cozy. The highest room had nothing but mattresses and old sofa pillows thrown on the floor. After an exhausting day of hiking or skiing or whatever, fellow nature lovers would just collapse in there in a communal heap. You’d be leaning on some guy from Dallas, letting some girl from Denver lay her legs across yours, while you tried to hold your beverage steady and kiss your date at the same time. It was awesome.


(Stickin' with mammoth) #53

I’m kinda psyched to watch the long term effects of keto unfold, not just in studies, but in the general population. We finally have a large, impossible-to-ignore group doing this now and our results will be glaringly, proudly, physically public, not just a few pages of data a corporation can bury with smear campaigns and crafty legislation.

I predict subgroups of ketoers will emerge, like people who can “heal” on it and go back to carbs, people who can cycle successfully in and out of keto as their life demands, and those who must stay below 20 grams of carbs 'til death do us part. And we’ll tease out why.

I got handed the label Generation X back in the 80s. I’m declaring Generation K.


#54

My “moment” came in stages. I always lost and gained weight. I used to joke that most people yo-yo dieted with 10 pounds…I did it with 100. Twice. I followed the SAD recommendations of the time, spent 4 hours a day at the gym and ate 900 calories a day to maintain it. No surprise it didn’t last either time.

In the early 2000s, my uncle (maternal) was diagnosed with cirrhosis. He was a sober alcoholic and had been sober for 25 years. Surprising…but ok…Then my mom (a teetotaler) was diagnosed with cirrhosis. Every doctor thought she was a closet alcoholic. I’d tell them that she never drank. They didn’t believe me OR her. Not a single one of those bastards ever mentioned NAFLD. None. None of them EVER mentioned a genetic component. They’d just tell her to quit drinking. I watched her for 10 years do every damn thing they requested. Low fat. Numerous insulin injections (your liver doesn’t work, so therefore your blood sugar is high…Oh and here, eat some oatmeal.). She suffered. Both she and her brother died from cirhossis in their early 60s. If you have ever seen someone with end stage cirhossis, it is a horrible painful death, and the hepatic encephalopathy is unbearable. (Think Alzheimer’s on steroids). I took care of them both until their deaths.

My mother passed on July 1, 2009. On July 1, 2011 I was diagnosed with fatty liver and T2 diabetes. My relatively young hip doctor told me…“Try something with a little less carbs.” I ran with it and went low carb and started exercising like a demon. Reversed it all. I was “cured” right? Had a couple of years of fun until I woke up one morning with a fasting blood sugar over 300. Went low carb again, and it did not work. Lower blood sugars but not low enough. No weight loss…gave keto a shot starting right before Christmas…and I am down 20ish pounds and my FBG was 120 this morning. (103 throughout the day).

So I guess my “aha” moment was…death. I’d like to avoid for as long as I can!


#55

:rage: so pissed off you and your family suffered like this. Thank goodness you know the way now.


#56

Thanks. The stories I could tell. Needless to say I have lost all trust and respect for the medical profession. I know there are a few gems in there, but as a whole…


(Stickin' with mammoth) #57

You and me both, sister.


(Mark Anthony Spiteri) #58

My “moment” happened in May 2016 whilst on a flight to London - when about 30 minutes after take off I suddenly felt that I could not breathe any more. I have had breathing problems prior to that but being in a confined space with nowhere to go is a completely different feeling!

When I came back home I vouched that I am going to do something about it, and by pure coincidence that same weekend I came across a Facebook post by @carl about Keto (I had been following Carl on his other podcasts for years) and decided to give Keto a go and so far I have lost just under 35kgs and I can say that my breathing problems have gone away!

Now to get rid of the next 15kgs!


(Henna Selnes) #59

After reading,I do believe you have found your SISU! (For those who don’t know,sisu is a Finnish warrior battle cry) jepp you found it.


(Roxanne) #60

Hmmmm…mine was gradual - there was a turning point for me, but I didn’t realize it at the time. I’ve always struggled, always carb binged, and always wondered why I could do ANYTHING I set my mind to except lose weight and keep it off. Why did I have no willpower? Why would I eat an entire pound of chocolate in one sitting? Diabetes runs in my family, ALL of my siblings, aunts and uncles have T2, so why was I doing this to myself? It was my constant question.

In March 2015, I went to a personal development workshop (Brendon Burchard’s High Performance Academy in San Diego, highly recommended). One of his speakers was Dr. Amen, who gave a fascinating presentation on the impact of sugar on our brain scans, showing that our addiction centers light up when we consume sugar. Ah ha… was I an an addict? But did I have the energy to tackle it? Not at the time. There were several other presentations stressing the importance of going beyond your regular medical physical and really finding out how your body ticked. Just because your various blood levels fall within the “accepted ranges” didn’t mean they were right for you. Interestingly, David Asprey of Bulletproof Coffee fame also gave a presentation, but at the time I though he was a quack :slight_smile:

So when I got home, I met with a naturopath, as well as my regular doctor. I had all the routine blood tests, which my GP said was all normal. But the naturopath pointed out that many of the figures were at the very bottom of the acceptable ranges, including B12, sodium, ferritin and thyroid. She showed me that in other countries (I’m in Canada), I actually fell below the reference ranges. I started supplementing with B12 injections, magnesium, selenium, natural thyroid and ashwaganda, and my brain fog lifted, my energy improved, and I finally had the will to look into this “sugar addiction” concept I had heard about at the HPA workshop. I googled sugar addiction and came across Bitten Johansen’s series on Diet Doctor. It made sense. I started looking at the other videos on Diet Doctor…Jason Fung, Westake, Lustwig, etc…and it all made sense. I watched Fung’s etiology of obesity on his IDM website, and it made sense too.

So I started LCHF in July 2016 and haven’t looked back. Down 31 pounds (currently stalled for 2 months), haven’t binged on carbs once (and twice on pistachios, can’t keep those in the house, apparently). I still have more to lose, but what amazes me is that for the first time in my life, I feel in control over food. I usually do 16:8 IF, have been doing a 24 hour fast once a week, and last week I did a 36 hour fast. I used to get headaches if I didn’t eat every 3 hours…the fact that I can go 36 hours without food totally astonishes me.

So not a single moment, really, but a journey. One that hasn’t ended yet!