What percentage does it take to change the whole?

(Jo O) #1

Scientific American article

Thought Y’All would enjoy reading this article.

Summary: It takes 25% of a minority opinion to change the whole group.

Definitely easier than converting 50-100% to our WOE.

(Doug) #2

Right on, Jo. I do think things are changing already - quite a few countries are forecasted to have 1 in 3 people being diabetic in just a few decades; there’s no way the lid can be kept on it.

(Mark Rhodes) #3

I have calculated that it will take 6 million Americans doing LCHF & in particular visiting their doctors and showing dramatic proof that this works to effect a change. That is enough deranged but corrected metabolisms for Doctors to dismiss it as an outlier. AT this point they too will join in the research and stop outright dismissing it.

And if this article is correct those that come in to their healthcare professional asking about LCHF and those practising it will be the tipping point.

But are we ready for what comes after? The medical campuses will not be able to pay their mortgage. The system is built upon perpetuating disease. Agriculture and Industry will suffer. Deere, Cat and minor players will all suffer as combines are not ordered and feedlots take their place. Transportation issues already in flux due to autonomous driving will have trucking lanes vanish entirely. Whole segments of grain silo storage (warehousing) will be eliminated.

This revolution WILL cause disruptions to the political /economic health of the global producers of ag products.

We need to be ready.

(Jo O) #4

I assume it will still take years considering Carl/Richard’s interview with Nina Teicholz?

But considering how much we all pay for medical costs. That cash can flow somewhere else.

How do you propose we be ready?

(Mark Rhodes) #5

That answer I don’t have yet. Obviously money will shift from one group to another. They will do everything possible to keep their cash safe. This means disruption. Politically. Economically. Socially.

I do think the Dudes attitude towards general amnesty is a major first step but that only eliminates liability. Once we start moving this direction do we forgive loans to independent farmers for investing in a “sure thing”? Or do we force farms into bankruptcy? How do we convert produce into livestock in an ethical and environmentally sound way? What business models could replace the ones being eliminated?

I am an engineer for a company that makes ag equipment. Our largest customers are CAT, Deere etc. Obviously we could move to windmills and equipment needed to build pastured farms. But CAT and Deere will suffer tremendous losses- potentially bad enough to swing the stock market rather swiftly.

Honestly I just don’t know as of yet. The swifter this happens the worse the disruption. With that in mind a slow overhaul will be needed. But it rarely works that way.

(Doug) #6

:smile: Ain’t that the truth. Nobody knows what all is going to happen, but in our 24-hour, interconnected world things happen instantaneously or nearly so, at times. The markets are (and always have been) studies in human emotion going from one extreme to another. Interesting times…

(Jo O) #7

Unintended consequences all around.

(karen) #8

I think there is a stall in the feedback loop between evidence and physicians. Physician sees improvement in patient doing keto but as a professional still can’t recommend it due to insurance or peer concerns (Just think about Timothy Noakes!) Then people say “but my doctor doesn’t recommend this, it must not be any good.” I agree that it all comes down to money, but it sure would be nice if we could get The Experts focused on cheap prevention rather than expensive tests and symptom treatment that never quite cures.

(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #9

@marklifestyle Too bad you can’t make as much profit on milking machines, cream separators, and bacon smokers as on a combine.

#10

I don’t envision a HFLC diet ever becoming the norm. It’s too hard to adhere to for most people. I hope for is a reversal of some of the trends that occurred over the past 50 years- a reduction of junk foods, decrease in sugary beverage consumption, and a return to eating only 2-3 meals per day.

(karen) #11

The logic goes in a circle, though. Much of the reason it’s so hard for the ordinary person who’s not focused on Being Keto to stick to the diet is because it isn’t mainstream. If I could go into a bar and grab a pickle or a hardboiled egg or a pig’s foot, if I could walk into a grocery store and have my choice of (really tasty, high fat) Stouffer’s keto meals rather than 120 calorie “meals” of lean cuisine pasta I could fit in my palm, if Costo was offering me samples of bacon fudge rather than carbs on a cracker, if I had to hunt down french fries rather than having to hang my head and whisper a request that they not show up on my plate …