Hi 
i want to express my scepticism …Before that, excuse my english, (i m greek) and language-mistakes.
i just came back from my doctor and talked about my new way of eating(doing it for 2 months now).
She started lecturing me about how the human body works and insisted that our brain cannot function with ketones for long term and in the future i will certainly have problems with that and
Red blood cells, that will explode(?)…i did nt quite understand that…
to sum up she said that our body is made to function properly with carbs. she insisted on introducing carbs again in my diet.
i am into this keto lifestyle and dont wanna quit because i finally can eat great and nourishing foods withoun concerning about gaining weight. i have a normal wight and my goal is health not loose weight
i am a bit worried though because i d love to follow that WOE for long term and for another reason: i am about to start an IVF procedure
i am confused…
what do you respond to all this? i m sceptical because it was a doctor that told me all this and not some random person that knows nothing…
Went to the doctor..a bit sceptical
Dr’s are people too; they know only what they are taught and what they ‘learn’ in their life.
Due to the range of conditions GP’s see, I do not expect they think solely about diet related disease constantly throughout the day. As per their name ‘General’ they have to know a little bit about everything, but clearly many will not know a whole lot about one thing!
This is not their fault, medical care has to start somewhere and ‘general’ practitioners make sense. But we can becomes speicalists; we take responsibility for our own health, education and interest in one issue with our own health.
Unfortunately therefore given this situation we may have to inform our GP’s and ensure they engage in further in depth conversation and work together to find solutions to our health problems. You cannot rely on one person to identify and solve your problems with one visit and no exchange of communication/information and your own findings. It’s frustrating, but realistic; open a dialogued and communication and educate them, and then let their recourses help you.
It’s always good to be skeptical…You should question everything, including your doctor…You are right to question some random person who knows nothing, but don’t assume that your doctor knows something…
That said, let’s assume your doctor is correct and your brain always requires 100% glucose to fuel it. If this were correct (it’s not), let’s also assume that you don’t consume any carbohydrates ever again, for years…Your doctor forgets that your body can produce glucose on it’s own, even if you don’t consume carbohydrates. And, it can do it for a lifetime. There are complete societies that have limited access to carbohydrates during periods of their existence, that continue to exist because they produce any necessary glucose for bodily function.
If you want to read up on the various forms of fueling pathways for the brain, you could also read this:
and other, similar articles.
My mother comes to me for advice every time something happens to her computer or her phone because I’m “in computers”. I’m a programmer, and have limited knowledge of computer hardware and software, and phone hardware and software. But, I’m the expert.
Don’t assume that your doctor knows anything…I’m glad you’re not…Doctor’s have lots of letters after their names, but most don’t have any specific, up to date knowledge how to fuel my car, my heart or my brain…Most have a higher tolerance for school and the associated bills, than I did…
i certainly read scientific articles and search for myself and these links are most appreciated…
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All doctors arent willing to be “educated” unfortunately and they insist and they make you concerned
Many doctors don’t have time to continue their education appropriately, and will appeal to authority:
She is referring to the fact that the brain needs glucose and she’s right. It absolutly does. But the body produces its own. It doesn’t need to get it from external sources.
And there is no life sustaining need for carbs. If there were, humans would have died out during the evelutionary stage where nothing but meat was available. As her to show you the science that the human body must have carbs or will die. It’s simply not there. Cells need protein and fat, not carbs.
i agree totally, but on the other hand, people during the paleolithic ages werent living much, were they?
Your doctors fear was one of life or death, not quality of life. Humans evolved during periods of little to no carbs. Survival was not dependent on carbs.
Actually I was in the doctor office today. I could tell that he goes by the book so I have to be careful in order not get him to intimidate me.
I told him I heard about the ketogenic diet. He interrupted me saying it is very bad do not listen to the net.
I told him of course I do not believe anything I read.
I said what is bad about It?
He said it will wrecks your lever and kidneys.
I said yes I will be careful.
I have to talk like that otherwise I may end up wiping the floor with his face.
something like this
Hahaha!
Should try that as well. I m new and get easily upset when people have a negative attitude.
They lived longer - and from what we know, much healthier - lives than the neolithic grain-eating farmers that came after them.
It would be a shame if you stopped this WOE based on the opinion of one ignoramus who happens to be a doctor. This doctor may be good In her area of expertise but knows nothing about keto and has no personal experience with it. She is just taking the word of others who also know nothing about keto or is just reading the misinformation that is floating around the Internet.
Yes, all doctors can’t be educated. If that’s the case, it’s time to find another doctor. Your health is too important. Find one that is open to it.
I’m not a doctor but my ex-wife went through IVF procedure (non-keto but resulted in a set of twins). I think it would be better to be on keto then eating the junk carbs your doctor will be happy with.
You say you are now skeptical of keto because of what your doctor says. You also said that you receive some health benefits. Listen to your body. It sounds like you know this WOE is good for you but maybe you need some more confirmation of the benefits of keto, and specifically in regards to the IVF procedure.
I recommend you stick around this forum. It’s a great place to learn. Maybe there are others who have gone through the procedure on keto and can give you some support by sharing their experience. You could start a new post specifically asking if others have experienced it on keto. You’ll most likely get a response since it is a large group.
By the way, your English is excellent. No worries there.
The African Masai and the Northern Inuit are two populations that subsist on a nearly 0 carb diet and they’re both doing fine. They may have genetically adapted to be better at it than other populations, but it’s not magic; there are also plenty of non-Masai, non-Inuit people who are thriving on low or no carbs. There’s some evidence that ketogenic diet / autophagy reduces free-protein in the brain and may help delay or prevent Alzheimers. We’re apparently not brain damaged after all. I think. 
Sometimes (especially if you like your doctor otherwise and want to keep her) it’s easier and less frustrating to just smile and nod and then go home and do what you want.
I intend to i keep reading posts of others, links attached and learning stuff that keep providing me with the confirmation i seek…
Thank u for the advice. I m grateful and will start a new topic ! Thanks for the compliment about my english as well
I dont really like her anymore! Hahaha
I forgot to mention that shes a civil servant, a doctor that is put in that position with limited tasks as a doctor…greek health system sucks…most civil servants here do only what they are hired to do and almost NEVER more. I kno that first hand…
She also told me in a very strict way that before i try to get pregnant i should have solved my personal issues( cause i told her that for years i m struggling to keep my healthy weight, after 30 years of diets, ups and downs etc)
I answered that if that was the case, and everyone before having a child should have solved any personal problem first, humans would be extint…
Yes, i dont like her at all!