Water Water Water

(Eric Crowell) #1

While you can fast for days, weeks, months (even over a year Fasting for 382 days), one thing everyone agrees with is that you need water – lots of water. I wanted to start a conversation about water and I did not see a topic anywhere else…so here goes.

(Eric Crowell) #2

So here goes…I see a local “coop” style grocery store has Alkaline Water. I tried a bottle and it does not taste much different and is priced similarly to the regular water. I see some websites (Alkaline and Keto) that recommend alkaline foods to enhance the Ketogenic diet. Not sure if this type of “hacked” water makes enough of an impact. Obviously one would not want to combine this type of water with lemon or limes as these would “cancel each other out”, right?

Any experience from others on the forum?

(Doug) #3

I really question the need for such a thing. Even in the case of heartburn/acid reflux, there are other, proven treatments. As far as the general advisability of higher-pH water, it seems to rely on dubious claims that we are somehow improperly “acidified,” and thus that alkaline substances are a remedy. I cannot see this being real.

The body is always seeking a pH balance in its various zones. The stomach is normally quite acidic, down in the area of 2 on the scale, vastly more acidic than water with a pH of 8 or 9 is basic/caustic. I think that even with a lot of alkaline water taken in, the body will secrete a further small amount of hydrochloric acid to bring the stomach’s pH back down; nothing good to be achieved here, in my opinion.

EDIT: Although, I just saw this, from Eric Berg:

“An excessively acid state can be caused by several dietary factors. If you’re following a very low carbohydrate, very high protein diet, you could put yourself into a state of ketosis. This isn’t always a bad thing, but it can break down fat and protein in the body to a harmful extent. If your urine contains ketones, you’re on the wrong end of ketosis, and may be too acid.”

:smile:

(karen) #4

A long time ago I read a book called Alkalize or Die. It just about drove me to distraction, with a very special list of foods that would alkalize or acidify the body. And IIR, lemon was listed as an alkalizer due to the way citric acid is metabolized in the body. At which point, IIR, I dropped the book in the loo and later composted it.

It’s just my opinion, but I think the whole specialized $4 for a liter of water and some plastic garbage to throw out is a marketing travesty. No Alkaline water for me, thanks.

(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #5

Huh? People on these forums pray for their urine sticks to turn color, and get upset if they don’t. And anyway, Dr. Phinney has research showing that nutritional ketosis has no affect on the overall acidity of the body. Ketoacidosis occurs only in the complete absence of insulin.

(Omar) #6

The topic is about water or too much water.

Water does not distinguish the good and bad substances in our blood. It just dilutes whatever comes in it’s path.

so it is true that water is good detoxifying method but it also a nutrition and minerals flushing method.

When people say that you must make up the electrolytes and salt when under high amount of water intake that is because they do not know what other nutrition maybe leaving the body. they focus on the minerals they know.

I say cautions must be applied when attempting to intake very large amount of water for extended times.

Another thing I tried my self when trying to drink too much water right after meals. It just wrecks the digestion process of that meal. Same thing happens with very cold water right after meal. People will say I have too much acid :grin: and actually take antacids or acid channel blockers :joy:. That is a guaranteed path into stomach bugs.

What I am trying to say that people say that water is good and no way it can cause harm. This way of thinking is not correct. Too much water can and will cause harm if not administered properly.

(Doug) #7

Paul, I just thought it was funny - people have been discussing Eric Berg lately…

(Jo) #8

So here’s our conundrum. We live on a mountain and have well water. THe water is very soft, but also very acidic, like about 4 ph untreated. We treat it with sodium bicarbonate or caustic soda, whatever I can get my hands on. It’s still never above 5.5 to 6 ph. Are we going to die? I drink the alkaline water sometimes and I too cannot taste the difference.

Until I see real science that acidic water will kill us, I will keep drinking our well water, which tastes great, by the way.

(linda) #9

I’ve used a water distiller for years - I live in Chicago and find it useful - as evidenced by the sludge left behind in the machine I doubt we are as troubled as Flint, Michigan with lead in their drinking water but I am concerned about the purity. The bottled water products are unregulated and the plastic that the water is housed in can cause problems if heated.

(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #10

Ahhhh. I plead fatigue and a bad cold. . . .