Urine Strip Results

#1

Hi

Are they designed to always show one of the colours on the box, or can they land somewhere in between?

My eyes aren’t what they used to be so it’s hard to tell sometimes…

I’m using NKD Living if that matters.

(Empress of the Unexpected) #2

I thought some of mine were in between but wasn’t sure either. Hoping we get the question answered.

(mole person) #3

They can fall anywhere in between.

#4

Don’t worry about any numbers on pee sticks.

As long as you’re not getting zero, then it’s all good.

Those things are not that accurate but knowing you’re getting “some thing” shows you have not blown your 20g carb speed limit. So that’s good.

(But after a few weeks you may not get any readings. There are several types of ketones and those things only measure one kind… then it maybe time to move on and get a blood analyser or nothing at all).

Focus on the 20g carbs - that’s the real key.

#5

Thanks for the replies, I’d assumed they could fall in between but I’ve made quite a few assumptions since starting this diet that were incorrect so thought I’d just check.

Cheers

#6

I’m testing quite dark now, if I want to bring it down a bit will eating slightly more carbs do the trick? Or is that not how it works?

The reason being that I’ve read 1.5-3 mmol is optimal for weight loss and I’m consistently showing 4-8.

#7

The numbers from Pee sticks are useless they are much higher than what you get on a bloody analyser.

Certain websites say 1.5 mM is optimal but in the same paragraph 0.5 is the target. Don’t take that his scientific fact take it as “Loosely speaking”

Dr Eric Westman showed some figures for his patience some of them were at .3, .4 .5 nowhere near 1.0 lead let alone this 1.5 mM. And bigger is not better

Just stay away from zero just get something. And spend your time and energy making sure you do not exceed 20 g carbs

(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #8

You know what happens when we assume . . . :grin:

You’re not wrong. But the definition of nutritional ketosis is β-hydroxybutyrate of 0.5 mmol/dL or above:
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#9

I’ve seen a 2018 vid where Eric Westman seems to revisit and reexamine some of the earlier rules of thumb, he was talking about 0.5 mM, not many people were getting much higher, some even 0.3 and 0.4 but still in keto. Depends on many factors, insulin resistance levels, age, exercise, too many things.

He also revisited the 50g Total Carb rule, revised it to 20g Total Carbs (not Net). Ouch. There go my great plans to “slowly introduce some more fruit (nature’s candy)”.

(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #10

I believe that Dr. Phinney is still telling Virta patients 50 g, however.

(Jean) #11

I was looking at getting a meter for keto but a few vids have people saying get a blood glucose meter instead as it’s more important . Do people have a preference . I’m using for weight loss and have a lot of weight to lose

#12

Some meters can measure either glucose or ketones, I have the Abbot FreeStyle it can do both. But I only buy ketone strips. I live in Australia, they’re $8.50 for 10 here.

Chasing numbers is like chasing shadows but mine helped me find hidden carbs.

I gained 2.2 lbs later that week, but I reckon I would’ve waived all that away as “water weight”, or “I’m so near my target weight, it gets harder” or some other wild guess … the meter was showing near zero ketones. I take the 20g limit more seriously now.

(A glucometer doesn’t directly measure insulin, that would be more interesting than glocuse to me).

#13

From what I can tell, I believe that is the case. That’s why I was surprised by Dr Westman’s 20. But he deals with a lot of very obese patients so maybe that’s the reason, then again he’s talking a lot about T2D these days so I don’t know …

(Christopher) #14

I use a Fora6 as it does both BG and Ketones.

(Christopher) #15

20 grams total would make eating enough greens / veggies extremely difficult for me. I can get up all kinds of things but going that close to carnivore would be tough.