Update for my experience

(Kristin ) #1

After I began eating keto (not just beibg in ketosis- I’ve been in ketosis since 11/29 following weight loss surgery). I’ve noticed 1 particular change that freaks me out- I am so calm (I do have my occasional fits still), but I feel like I’m some kind of mindfulness master! I’ve been diagnosed in the past with ADHD, and so thus level of calm… and Id say even productivity has been absolutely amazing!

I’m a therapist, and I’m itching to figure out how to ethically integrate keto into my practice… I’m in a better mood, sleeping better, more connected with my husband… it’s amazing.

And not to mention I’ve discovered bacon bread?! My life is complete.

(Rob) #2

I think this seems to be beyond the community (but I’m bumping it just in case). You might want to change the title if you want more folks to chime in?

You could be the pioneer in this. Gentle incorporation into therapy sounds harmless but we’ve seen how professional bodies get their pants in a twist when people step outside orthodoxy.

Not sure what the professional therapist code is (if there even is one) but if you gathered some research and/or testimonials on the positive mental effects of keto you could leave it up to your patients to decide to add this to more traditional therapy? If you don’t fear sanction, why not push it as a therapeutic pathway, along with maybe a preferred keto book (add it to the fees :wink: and an email of links that debunk the typical anti-keto messages (fat, cholesterol, salt, carbs, pills, etc.).

(Kristin ) #3

Maybe finding a pro keto dietitian to work with my clients!!!

(Dan Dan) #4

I really think we are making this harder than we need. In essence we are eliminating sugar and starch in addition to processed foods. Who would complain about that? :thinking:

This is what I tell my Doctor and I get " that’s a sensible diet " :wink:

(Rob) #5

That’s fine for ‘civilians’ but maybe one has to tread more carefully when you have a duty of care and professional boundaries?

I don’t know anything about therapy but it makes sense to be cautious until proven otherwise.

(Kristin ) #6

Yes… Scope of competence is a serious ethical concern for therapists, and law suits have happened. What if I suggest and they have a heart attack shortly after… My ass could be grass.

But I think I could find a dietitian to work with me, it’d be a great way to have someone talk to clients in their own scope!

(Rob) #7

Apparently there is a huge difference between you telling your doctor and your doctor telling you :flushed: [for shame]

(Charlie Kathopoulis) #8

@KrissyMoo sorry for the silly question … but what sort of therapist? Massage, Physiotherapist, OT?

Also maybe check with your professional body what the limitations of your scope of practice. I don’t believe a gentle suggestion to ‘consider’ and approach to eating that incorporates healthy fats, moderate proteins and the elimination of processed and/or refined or high carbohydrate foods would be looked on adversely :slight_smile:

(Kristin ) #9

Good point. I’m a psychotherapist. I did mention to a client some science about it (she has some resistant issues), and just told her to read about diet and consult… Kind of a hands off suggestion

(Charlie Kathopoulis) #10

So cool :slight_smile: I had a board member querry some of our recommendations. I simply explained to him the reasons behind my ‘suggestions’ and sent him several links to research papers with the closing statement of ‘…if there is something in here that doesn’t make sense I am more than willing to discuss them’. I honestly believe that if the intent behind the advice, coupled with good science (especially if you are willing to work in conjunction with other practitioners that are more specialised in this area) and well documented consults :slight_smile: then you should do well. Just still check with your scope of practice guidelines though :smiley: