@Fracmeister I can do the same thing as you… I regularly wake between 4 and 430am and nip to the loo then back in to bed and sleep the best sleep ever, the only thing is that sleep is always the quickest! Of course if I am going to work it is very frustrating to wake up at that time as I have the alarm set for 445am and I despair at the thought of only having maybe 20 more mins to sleep when I k ow I need at least 3 more hours 
I would love to have those trees near me I would be using those leaves for some potion or other. Lucky you x
Twelve Days of Carnivore!
Karen18
(Karen)
#261
Shinita
#262
Similar. I made mushroom stew lately, it was nice but I put it into the freezer and Alvaro ate almost the whole thing. Even on my very off days when I don’t try to avoid plants and mushrooms, I just taste and don’t want a proper amount. It may be pretty normal to you now but still very odd to me. I am not this good with everything but vegetables and mushrooms? I won’t get much carbs from them, that’s sure.
Carni will be nice when I go back to it, right now I can’t even think about trying to eat meat again. I probably overdid it for a few days. November was fine, I ate everything, eggs, cheese, some other dairy and in average, 0.64 pounds of meat a day, it was a nice amount, not too little, not too much… At least I could handle it for a month (except my few off days). Then I stopped eating eggs, had some very meaty days (at least percentage wise, my appetite wasn’t the usual after the accident) and it has a backslash now. Not the best as I don’t see a single good option regarding my eating but it’s not so bad and I will start to try eating meat (and more eggs) without desire soon, I just eat as many bites I can without real force… It’s possible it will work very well but I really should avoid these food aversion situations in the first place. November was the meatiest month in my whole life, probably by far and I changed a lot pretty quickly for me… I expect more changes in the future. It’s not comfortable to be “forced” (it’s not so bad but I must be careful and that’s troublesome) to eat every usual food group (eggs, dairy, meat) very nearly every day or else I will get bored of my food and chaos ensues unless I do my best and focus all the time (but that’s tiring).
Sleep: I miss the old times when I lie down with the intent of sleeping and I fell asleep in a few seconds. So waking up (good luck to wake me up in the first 6-8 hours. it’s a very, very hard task even now) was never a problem, I could went back to sleep.
Now… I usually sleep or watch something until I fall asleep. It happened at 4am yesterday but I napped a bit before. And if I properly wake up, no matter how I lack sleep… I can’t go back to sleep.
Fortunately I don’t wake up in the middle of the night (well, I go to bed in the middle of the night :D). Alvaro does and go back to sleep. If he wakes up early, like, at 4am, he can’t sleep again.
And his Mom told me lately that she wakes up in the middle of the night and he must sit for an hour but it’s due to something with her back. I would be a zombie after such a bad sleep, I need my 6-8 hours in one. And if nothing extreme happens, I have at least most of them, alarms can’t break though. Hunger is out of question. And I definitely don’t need to pee at night, no matter what. I drink very much in the evening and at night before bed, no problem. I was always good at this.
But if someone enters the room, I wake up. It must be normal as in maths camps all the girls woke up when the person responsible to wake us up silently entered and even more silently stood in the middle of the room. We all wake up quickly.
So if I am alone and go back to bed late, almost nothing can force me to wake up at the right time. My alarms has no chance. If the alarm is super insistent, loud and agressive, I will have a very bad nightmare about the alarm that can’t be turned off. There is always an alarm clock, I take it apart, get out the batteries, whatever, it keeps ringing. It took ages for me to wake up. After several such nightmare I made sure my agressive alarm sounds are cool songs, not some annoying nightmare fuel. But I easily ignore those if I didn’t sleep nearly enough. I always had this skill.
But if I barely wake up and immediately go back to sleep, I have dreams I remember… My tiny naps are filled with dreams too. The naps happen when I have lack of sleep and it’s afternoon and especially after a big meal. I sleep wonderfully then.
And I probably simply can’t fall asleep when hungry. I almost never tried it all my life but when I did, it almost never worked. Once I was very stubborn and that sleep was my worst ever so never again. (My short starving was “okay”, I wasn’t hungry so I slept well enough. And I always stop fasting if I get hungry so that is fine too.)
I never noticed my woe would have any effect on the quality of my sleep. Well, sure, if I would feel horrible when awake due to some horrible diet, my sleep would be bad too but if I am even remotely fine, my sleep is similar.
Or… Maybe not feeling a moody super low-energy zombie in the morning means I sleep better now? It’s hard to tell, I definitely slept enough before too, I feel those things. There is a thing that enough but not good enough sleep? Probably.
Karen18
(Karen)
#263
100 stair runs up and down plus an hours CrossFit worked up just a nice hunger for my brunch, a gorgeous butchers ribeye steak.
Slow cooked in the oven the humungus beef short ribs and the 2 lrolled lamb breasts and of course had to check the lamb was cooked so ate half of one and yep definitely cooked and tasty. Plus had a mug of the chicken broth I made earlier in week.
Carved up the remainder of the beef brisket that I had slow cooked earlier in week and popped in fridge for if I feel peckish to try and stop me snacking on cheese
Can’t upload my photos 
Ketodaisy
(Daisy)
#264
Here is today’s eats all on one plate, though it will be eaten in 2 meals. Eggs with butter and hollandaise, bone broth jello, halloumi, liver pâté (all eaten in first meal). Then the big bowl is almost a pound of chorizo and 6 ounces of ground beef. The chorizo is super clean from a local butcher and the ground beef is from my cow. Topped with some butter and salt of course!
I ate about half of it with this meal and the other half will be dinner.
Ellacosew
#266
I had a “Cowboy Angus” bone-in ribeye for morning meal. I think it was about a pound actual weight.
Einstein said, “Everything should be as simple as possible. And no simpler.”
I return to that thought as I am tempted to go on a fast to hit my “goal weight”. Then I have a steak. 
Fangs
#267
no they are not and your book can not be any different than my book when it comes to eating plants or fungus 
remember all this is not acceptable food for carnivore, plus that crab stuffing in that sucker while piled high and delish was breadcrumbs or whatever crap in it but I knew one was nothing to me…a vacation blip.
so no one follow what I did 
back to normal today and zc as usual…Dec will fly by for all of us.
Carnivoor
(Vic)
#268
Depressing times, I’m suffering the stupidity, that borders on crimes of the local politician’s. There will be no xmas dinner at my place, its illegal.
I need confort food:
Carnivore ice cream I made for xmas
VirginiaEdie
(Edith)
#272
Boy! I am away for a day and there’s 20 new messages.
I figured it was time for my “no supplements update.” Warning! This may end up being a long post.
I have taken magnesium for years. Many years ago, long before keto, I was having heart palpitations, anxiety, and restless legs. After reading “The Magnesium Miracle” I started supplementing Mg and those symptoms including the heart palpitations went away.
Then, about six months into keto, the heart palpitations came back. ( I won’t go into all the gory details. You can do a search on the forum and find all my posts about the palpitation trouble shooting I did.) At the time, I figured it couldn’t be magnesium, because I was still supplementing with it.
I thought I had some food intolerances because certain foods would give me palpitations after I ate them. Then I learned about histamine intolerance (which explained the food intolerances, actually). Cutting back on histamine containing foods was actually a big help, but the palpitations never went completely away.
Next I found out about oxalates. Going low oxalate finally put the nail in the coffin. I think that the oxalates depleted me of magnesium. I switched to a mostly carnivore diet and really upped my magnesium intake. After a month or so, the palpitations were gone. So was the anxiety I’d been having along with the palpitations.
Over the past year I was able to decrease the amount of magnesium I was taking unless going through an oxalate dump, and then I would have to increase the dosage for a few days. Heart palpitations were pretty much gone unless eating a lot of histamine containing food. (High histamine still gives me palpitations.)
Well, that brings me to my pure carnivore trial. The carnivore experts say that one does not need supplements when eating a carnivore diet. So, a month ago I stopped my supplementation of magnesium, calcium, and salt. Now, I didn’t completely stop salt. I still salt my food. I’m just not supplementing any extra.
I have to admit, my body did go through an adjustment when I lowered my salt intake, but now it is used to the new levels and seem to be doing just fine with them. But…the last few days I have felt terrible after I eat. It reminds me of when I was having all the palpitations after I ate a few years back. I’ve started having anxiety again. Anxiety is a symptom of magnesium deficiency.
So, tonight I have restarted my magnesium supplements. For some reason my body needs the extra magnesium. Who knows, maybe after a few more years of healing and staying off Diet Coke, I won’t need it any more, but for now, I think I still do.
I will see how I feel in a few days after restarting the Mg & Ca, (they need to be balanced) and let you know if I was correct and need the supplements.
Fangs
#273
wow I am really sorry to hear this, what restrictions did they put on you guys in your area? that is rough truly!!
Fangs
#275
it is good you are ‘discovering you’ and what you need to feel better, I get this and I truly support you doing what you need.
I have heart PVCs…have you ever researched them. OMG the heart palpatations and the flip flop in my chest, worse at night but one of my biggest offenders was diet pepsi cause of the aspartame crap in it…and any caffeine triggered me and alcohol could trigger me too and any other fake sweeteners…going carnivore it all stopped but if I push certain things like bacon, deli meat type things, anything ‘processed’ like sausages and that type of meats I could start to trigger my PVCs again along with any weirdo stress times I can backslide…just a thought, cause I have to say I had to go thru a ton, a heart catherization, a heart monitor, a heart sonagram and then the surgeon said wow your arteries are perfect, why are you here and I said I ‘failed’ the heart stress ekg treadmill and I was the only one in there that actually finished it according to the nurse…and surgeon said ‘boobs’ on a gal can throw off the treadmill ekg to false numbers and I was like WTH? and I was floored cause failing that test was what got me into surgery for the heart cath procedure…friggin’ nightmare ya know…but this was me 
I am just saying have you checked out PVCs at all cause they are real and they are horrible for sure…again just a thought and path you might wanna check if you have not already…my pvcs is another reason I walked to zero carb.
but yes, do you VE cause we are never all the same on what little bump up or more we might require.
VirginiaEdie
(Edith)
#276
Yes, they were/are PVCs. I went to a cardiologist two years ago. Wore the monitor, yadda yadda yadda. Tried metatropolol. Hated it and it gave me muscle aches. Discovered they were caused by the Mg deficiency on my own after rereading “The Magnesium Miracle.” I’ve been good until this past week, a month into my trial.
Carnivoor
(Vic)
#277
Night curfews, only 1 person allowed in your house and may not be changed for 10 days. And now they want to forbid travel between villages.
More than 4 people toghether is illegal (we are a 5pers household)
The fine is 250euro per person. Police has been granted special powers, they can invade your home without a warrant.
Yes we will. But the normal 10 to 15 guesst (all family) will not be here, half of them will be all alone in there own home.
My family are still ok, but 2 of my friends are suicidal under the mental stress of being alone. I fear I may loose some people I care about. Not to a virus but to political stupidity.
Soon I may be forced to inject myself with an untested vaccine.
I dont know…I’m very uncomfortable with this?
Sorry for the rant, no more, I promise.
The normally expensive fish, lobsters and meats are really cheap this year, not a good thing but lets feast anyway.
Fangs
#278
rant all you want we are here for support to help ya and if you need to vent it out and it helps ya, then we will listen!
that is extreme rough actions from your villages. wow. we are not even close to anything like that in my location.
and a few friends who need company and support truly can not get it with anyone? that is even more scary than fines ya know. I truly hope everyone is ok thru all this bad situation. but 10 days only? that clears you guys for Christmas…maybe? probably not much will change but I hope that something lessens up for your area. Political stupidity, yes I get your point for sure! wow
So sorry for all the troubles that are happening for you. Untested vaccine, omg that is very scary also! Wishing you the best outcome for all of this crazy that is going down Vic!
Fangs
#279
never heard of this one, my cardiologist just wanted me to go straight on beta blockers and I said nope…and you shoulda seen his reaction, tough noogies HAHA When I got a clear report from the heart cath and clean arteries and all that I thought why in heaven’s name do I need a beta blocker when the surgeon Dr said I had no biz being there for that procedure in the first place. I went home and researched pvcs like a maniac and it was all food/drink related for me. I see if yours is mag related then yea, you mag up all ya need LOL I know my pvcs I have to say scared the beejeebies out of me, they are horrible feeling truly so hoping you come around in good form and do ok thru it all!
