Turning into a 3x/week carnivore! First day

(Jane Srygley) #1

I just feel the need to state that this board has inspired me to take quite the diversion from the lazy keto I started last April! I would never in a million years thought that I would have gone a full day fasting, which now I’ve done multiple times… and today I am doing a full day of carnivore (99.9%), which I have to say would have seemed entirely impossible 1 year ago.

Yet if I think back to Atkins, the first 2 weeks were originally supposed to be zero carb. So I feel like I’m getting back to the roots of low carb eating, even though Atkins was not the first proponent of low carb. I started the Atkins diet the first time at age 13, though, in 1976… so he feels like my low carb dad.

Here’s my meal plan for the day:

Bulletproof coffee w/butter & MCT oil
Hardboiled eggs w/cream cheese & garlic salt
Bison burger w/butter
4 chicken drumsticks

My jaw is hanging open in my mind because I CAN’T BELIEVE I’M DOING THIS!!! But thanks to all I’ve learned directly from you people on this board and from all the tangents you’ve sent me on, here the fuck I am!!!

Tomorrow and Thursday I’ll be fasting, then lazy keto on Saturday and OMAD w/a lazy keto dinner on Sunday. That’s my week.

Lazy Keto->Fasting->Occasional Carnivore summarizes my journey :heart:

Thank you :pray::heart::pray:

(Jill F.) #2

Sounds good! Anytime you add dairy like cheese there will be some carbs. True 100% carnivore will be your menu without the cheese.
When I do carnivore hard core I eat sausage, eggs, bacon, steak, things like that and lay off the cheese.
You will still do great but just be aware of those pesky hidden carbs in cheese.

(Elizabeth ) #3

I would try to work more red meat in, use the other as side dishes

#4

Sometimes very surprising things happen. I jumped from nearly vegetarian keto/low-carb (meat once in a month in the last times, less before) to carnivore trial. It’s surreal. I thought vegetables are the only food group I never will give up and I will be a vegan earlier than a carnivore :smiley: I couldn’t go below 30-40g on keto before because I needed that tiny amount for vegetables and other plants… But people change, something abruptly. I still don’t plan to be a carnivore, I just try this (2+ weeks next time) and keep the meat afterwards with very little plants. Trying out things (not harmful ones and not the ones clearly unsuited for us) may be very good. Keto was weird to me in the beginning and I never regret it I tried, I was sad I didn’t do it earlier.
Carnivore is surreal, meat is so exotic to me! But some kind is a bit nostalgic…

Best wishes for your little experiment! :slight_smile:
Your meal plan sounds okay, I definitely won’t eat much meat every day on my trial either. I only use harder cheese but it’s very individual. You will figure out what works for you best :slight_smile:

(Michael - When reality fails to meet expectations, the problem is not reality.) #5

Generally, soft cheeses have the most carbs per unit, while hard cheeses have the least. There are many hard cheeses, such as old or extra old cheddar with zero carbs, or close enough. McLaren’s even makes an extra old cheddar that is somewhat soft. It doesn’t ‘spread’ like cream cheese, it ‘crumbles’.

(Eric - The patient needs to be patient!) #6

I beg to differ. Cheese can be carnivore. May carnivores choose no dairy at all. But dairy is animal products.

Coffee could be called not carnivore but many do still consume coffee.

#7

That’s awesome Jane.

There are so many n=1 experiments to try with dietary revelation that it is a real struggle to get back to SAD eating once the curiosity and learning gets hold.

You’ve cast off the yoke of the processed food giants addiction specialising food scientists. Good on you, and good on you for inspiring others.

#8

This is me. Atkins original book, the 1972 version is what walked me into carnivore. Any time I tried Atkins, I only flourished in the ‘Induction phase’. Biological zero carb he called it. What I never liked was the little ‘salad’ or ‘choose a pickle’. I liked the rest of it, eat all the meat and fat you wanted :slight_smile: I thrived on that.

but sadly when I tried to ‘climb the carb ladder’ into other phases I couldn’t do it. Give me back carbs and my body just wanted more and more. So I thought if I thrive in Atkins Induction Phase, hmmm, let’s just stay there and I did, til one day I cut that nasty salad and went full carnivore LOL

I feel the same way, my original low carb daddy HAHA

I am super thrilled to read your post!

You found you! And that is key to any monster change in our lives. How do we work all the stuff we read/learn/experiences from other’s we absorb thru their success? How do we make it our own?

You found what is working for you now and not against you. You are finding your own personal sweet spot on how an eating plan can be designed specifically for you and you succeed. You adapt thru it. You grow along with it, all because it is for you personally. Fits your life as you need it to do. I think that is a big foundation for many to understand and you are finding it now!!!

We find ‘diets’ to get healthy that say, eat this way. don’t eat that. up this amt of fat and delete this food and so on…omg that can drive us crazy ‘living by a diet rulebook’ and when we fail we have no idea why but that minute we take all the info and wrap it around us and use it as we need in our lives, oh yea we can fall into good eating patterns, find our best place to be and make our own plans to fit us perfectly.

Wonderful post to read! So happy you are doing so well!

#10

I call this Purist Carnivore.

when I say true 100% carnivore for ME personally, I am implying I do some dairy cause I function very well on it. So it is 100% true to me eating carnivore LOL

funny how a few terms get changed up a bit and we get off kilter on what another is saying, but hey I get it :slight_smile: we all call it whatever in the end.

any carbs from any animal product is allowed on carnivore. Thing is it is the other ‘dairy troubles’ that people might encounter. So dairy is all about the ‘other lactose etc’ properties that one might find disagreeable with their body, but cheese is carnivore. There aren’t any ‘pesky’ carbs in carnivore. Any carb wrapped around by total animal products aren’t a ‘nasty carb’ on carnivore tho. An animal protein carb from say cheese or liver doesn’t matter. It is plant carbs that matter on carnivore. Carnivore carbs mean nothing, nada, nothing. But how the food you eat will matter. Dairy is tough for many for sure.

that is all I got out of it on my years on carnivore. you eat every single animal product only food and see how ya do on it and if you do fine, then soldier on. A Purist Carnivore is very strict and tight. I get it, some absolutely require it. Then go PKD carnivore. Wow talk about stricter and more involved. But we all do what we must to make carnivore work for us at all times :slight_smile:

(Jane Srygley) #11

Thanks for your responses everyone!

I found that after eating what I’d originally planned I was still quite hungry, but I’ve heard/read carnivore peeps say that they eat as much as 2 lbs per day or more of beef, so I honestly think my body was craving more protein. I made the rest up with fat primarily though I did have a protein bar (Quest :confounded:) because I was on the road and out of options. I’m fasting today (though I’m really fighting it because I am NOT in the mood!) but plan to eat an extra 1/3 lb bison burger tomorrow.

Aw thanks FrankoBear :heart: Yeah I was eating a lot of vegan foods at one point and the thing that kept occurring to me is… How healthy can this be if they have to process it so much? I can choose pure pea protein instead of fake meat (:face_vomiting:) but I’m not actually eating PEAS… Plus almond flour isn’t almonds and now I know about oxalates so screw that… Anyway point being that processed food has imbedded itself in the ketoverse and I think we are all worse off if we go down that road. The original keto diet and original Atkins didn’t know about Erythritol or almond flour or coconut flour or Bulletproof protein bars or Atkins protein shakes etc. etc. etc. and I think that while yes, low carb is still preferable to eating sugar and wheat and corn et al, our health is still being compromised significantly by relying on all that other processed crap. A return to ancestral foods just makes sense. My niece is studying anthropology and said that she’s interested in Paleo for that reason. She thought it was hilarious when I said to her yesterday, “Ok so you know how I used to be a vegetarian? Today I’m doing carnivore and I want to tell everyone EAT MORE MEAT!!!” :rofl::rofl::rofl:

I love that and YES I’m the same… Total carb addict!!!

Thanks so much and I appreciate everything you wrote as well as the advice you’ve given me in other comments :heart: