TreatyMeatyCarnivore December!

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first meal planned for later today. my skinny pork chops I enjoy.
this is .75/lb. Will fry up in some butter and have at it.
second food, probably chicken or burgers. keeping it very simple.

focus will be on stocking my rv freezer with burger and meat for my beach trip coming up. easy peasy also since I been packing the rv for carnivore for many years now :slight_smile: but like anything, just more work again to get the rv ready for this trip as usual :slight_smile:

zc strong all! HO HO HO is coming our way soon now!

(Edith) #163

Carnivore made me very lazy and I work full-time so I made myself a batch of very fatty deviled eggs and I spread them out over five meals throughout the day. They totaled about 1000 calories. I actually did that for the first two days. On the third day, I was less hungry and I had a Christmas party in the evening, so I fasted until noon and then ate some macadamia nuts to tie me over until the party. Sunday, I was back to deviled eggs because they were left over from the party and I ate some ham salad, a small amount of beef brisket, and the macadamia nuts. Again spread out over five meals.

Each meals was 200-250 calories. I didn’t worry too much about protein since it was only for a short period of time. Even so, I was usually up around 50 grams of protein for the day.

I enjoyed the smaller meals. When I have a big meat meal, particularly of beef for some reason, I frequently get sleepy afterwards. That does not happen with the smaller meals.

I will admit, a two hundred calorie meal did not “feel” like enough food, but once my body realized it had gotten a fair bit of fat, the hunger would go away and I would go about three hours to my next small meal. I think it was probably just enough to keep my mind or body from thinking it wasn’t getting enough food.

Yesterday ended up being a more normal day. The fat was a little lower, protein a little higher, and I ate more calories. I did have the smaller more frequent meals. I think for the next few months I’m going to really try to keep up the fat, but go back to three meals a day. I’m going to keep my protein per meal lower, similar to @Azi and see how that goes. I did lose 4 pounds over the four days. I figure half probably from water, but that’s okay. It was nice to see the scale go down instead of the creeping upward I’ve been having.

I know that gluconeogenesis is supposed to be demand driven, but (I’m saying this without research, based upon anecdotes from people here on the forum) I think it may have something to do with supply as well. Why else would people who need a therapeutic ketogenic diet only be allowed 10% of their calories from protein? Why would Paleomedicina also restrict the amount of protein intake?

Anyway, it sure is fun to experiment!

(Robin) #164

I love those skinny pork chops. I have been using my air fryer , maybe too much… because frying them in butter sounds even better!

#165

butter if ya do great on it is the cat’s meow!! I do, it is key important factor in my meal definitely!

I pan fry high heat instantly. I want a crisp chunky charred outside and I also want it done in like, hmmmm, 4 minutes to the plate.

how long would an air fryer take? Plus what is clean up on it? For me I just let the pan cool, hot water, swirl soap done and onto next meal later and I find it very comforting that I whittled life down to my meals to just that BUT DARN Robin if those air fryers ain’t also the cat’s meow for some…they are loving those things out there…makes me wanna buy one but I won’t. I am so not into more gadgets, trying to unload all crap I got in my home now HA…yes minimalist type person chatting here :wink:

(Edith) #166

Ummmm, you have me hungry for pork chops.

#167

air fryer or not HA

#168

Thanks!
Oh yes I saw fatty deviled eggs as an option, I may try that! My deviled eggs are usually not that fatty but I may try… Tricky as I love my deviled eggs with more whites than yolks and rarely add fat. And eggs with too much fat reminds me of my horrible egg fast that lasted for 8 hours and ended up in carb eating to feel alive again… But I can imagine them with bacon instead of a ton of lard… Stupid egg fast doesn’t allow meats (or enough eggs unless I insanely overeat fat too). And I am not so great with super greasy food.

It seems some people work very differently than others, that’s why a quite hig fat carnivore style is popular among many people, it just works better for them. Smaller meals too.
While we others work better with more protein and bigger meals - or it doesn’t matter so much.

I surely will experiment :slight_smile: But I finish my leaner protein sources first.

#169

We just let the pan be, it’s non-sticky and stays pretty clean. Of course we occasionally wash it but it’s rarely needed on the inside…

Fangs, thanks for the “cat’s meow”, I have learned a new expression… :smiley:

I got hungry early today (with zero appetite, perfect! I don’t have so strong preferences with zero, I am free to eat whatever is needed to be eaten or sounds good for my plans) so it’s a lunch OMAD day, hopefully. It’s 6:42pm now and I feel quite full. I did try to eat much for lunch and it wasn’t even hard despite not having proper meat. I seemed to fail at some point and got out my little pork chuck roast from the freezer but when it was half defrosted in the microwave, I realized I don’t want it. I eat it tomorrow along with my other leftovers.

Today I had scrambled eggs with beef liver and sausage, more beef liver, more sausage, more scrambled eggs (from yesterday, I didn’t know I haven’t eaten that), sponge cakes, a little smoked mackerel, lots of Masdaam cheese and very eggy coffees. And more eggs.
Photo of my scrambled eggs with meats is on my phone, I won’t bother with it, I need to take out that super tiny micro SD card and put into a minuscule hole while not losing it… Later. I have a bad headache right now.

[…]
I tracked. Ooops. Maybe stuffing myself is good longer term but probably not with eating eggs with abandon… I used pretty okay items and still overate in one sitting :smiley: Even if I don’t necessarily call it overeating if it’s a single day.
150g protein and fat for today. Nice though potentially unneeded for a lunch (I am more inactive than ever right now). I feel quite satiated now, it’s past 9pm.

No idea what the ideal attitude towards my OMAD meals is (eating as little as possible, eating as much as possible, doing whatever feels right, eating according to macros but I don’t do that anyway), I probably will figure it out eventually. I doubt I would eat way too much on longer term carni OMAD but maybe I shouldn’t drink zillion calories. My eggy coffee was quite substantial :slight_smile: And yep, that’s my focus for now, to avoid midnight eating. I try to establish OMAD and then we will see if I automatically eat right or some extra rules will be needed.

It’s interesting but very good that even if I get hungry at lunchtime, I usually eat enough for OMAD. It’s just perfect, not getting hungry again and again and bothering with a biggish eating window… Very convenient as long as I can eat a proper meal just fine.

(Karen) #170

Up just after 9am, read and coffee in the lounge. I would have liked ro have sat outside but too wet this morning albeit really sunny.

Bruch was about 12.45, ribeye steak , very tender and tasty with 2 rashers of bacon.

Out after that and took Raymond for a brew to a riverside lock heritage tea house. It was really nice and cosy in there but i saw a lovely canal boat watering can and though it would make a lovey house warming pressie for my daughter. If she doesn’t like it she can give it back to me cos i love it! I just love the colours , green and dark pink with flowers on it.

Returned home via lidl and picked up a turkey roast for xmas. Fortunately Sian hasn’t already bought one so i will take it over beforehand so she can cook it on Boxing Day as i will be cooking the lamb shoulder. Also picked up stuff i wont be eating for the 2 tea dances we have lined up thursday and friday.

When i got home i cooked dinner of 2 beef burgers and 2 rashers of bacon… very tasty. Later i ate a cooked chicken leg plus some cheddar.

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(Robin) #171

My air fryer was a gift from my daughter and I put off figuring it out for months. It’s super easy and clean-up is easy too.
I am also a minimalist, tho. Every time I open a drawer or closet, I ask myself what I can get rid of. Less stuff, more peace. But I never gave away my cast iron skillet… so butter fried steak soon!

(Judy Thompson) #172

Hello!!
Crazy life here. I have been putting late nights into catching up but there’s never time to do justice to a post. Today, there’s no performance for once, and there were only 2 students, and they wanted to both be early which gave me more time later!

I’ve been good. Taking some pics of my food on the phone but darn if I can remember what was when. I’ll check after I finish this on the laptop to see what I can dump - but the best of it didn’t get shot.

@FrankoBear lovely pic of your beach. Hubby looked at that and said, “That reminds me of A Town Like Alice. Time to watch that again.” That was a great story, Neville Shute. I listened to it on audiobook one time when I drove 12 hours to Michigan and 12 hours back. The story made it feel more like two hours!

@Fangs Bolt is doing SO well! You listened, he talked, and now he’s happy and healthy. A new vet might be an answer but what do any kind of doctors know about nutrition? So glad the little guy has his new lease on life!
@jh5899 That steak always looks so awesome! Love your steak and egg meals.
@Karen18 Your dance pic is great! Nice to see Raymond, I feel like I know him as much as you describe him, and of course you in your Christmas getup. Lovely!

This week I sous vided a medium sized brisket - can’t have anything too big with just the 2 of us. I started buying market cut brisket as the very fatty brisket still gives me trouble. After sous viding you’re supposed to either roast or smoke it but just cutting and searing the slices, I get such tender steaks out of it. We both love it. I still have the boiled egg in the morning and some sharp cheese in late afternoon. Generally at night when we get home from a gig I fix polska kielbasa or bacon with eggs. Hits the spot after being on our feet for 4 hours of playing and entertaining.

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Brisket
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We put up a wreath and a couple of artificial trees but meh on Christmas really. We are working too much to bother. But Santa did bring me a very nice present - and @Fangs is responsible to a great degree! I got an EGO (electric battery operated) chainsaw! It’s 56 volts so it is not a weak piece of equipment! I went out and cut some wood and trimmed a tree and dragged the branches down to the burn pile on the day it was charged. Women just kept saying “I cleared the brush on my property” and I’d say “with what” and I was amazed they were using chainsaws!! So now I’ve joined the club! I can do this!

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#173

A part of me loves this.
My other part loves things and want to have and keep them (I got pretty good not wanting too many things but still so much remained).
It’s hard to be me.

What else? :slight_smile: Though it the branches aren’t very big, a simple saw can make wonders (and the thing I don’t know the name of for the tiny ones). Ours is shockingly effective and quick! But for the big ones and cutting the long ones up we do need our chainsaw. That tool was very essential even for this small properly, we cut off so many treas and strong bushes this far… And used the chainsaw on other wood too.

Still perfectly satiated, yay! But it could be expected after my meal.

I saw some interesting new birds I didn’t know yesterday, made some photos, sadly couldn’t use the big one for birds but they were still recognizable! Alvaro figured out they were yellowhammers :smiley: Yay, new species in my garden!

The tits (blue and big ones) and sparrows are always here, checking the feeder, eating super quickly but it’s cold and I like to watch them so I refill it multiple times a day…

The cats are horrible, they got too much chewy bites from my meat lately and now Pie is very, very enthusiastic and I can’t peacefully do things in the kitchen because she always come to check if I eat… She loves to go upstairs so she goes up if there is no food… But 5 minutes later she just have to check it again…

#174

Is someone sounding like their Mum in this statement :joy_cat::partying_face:

anything with a side rasher of bacon is a good thing :sunny:

TX GAL IS ROCKING THAT CHAINSAW PIC JJ!! Yea we gals don’t use no snippers or little hand held pruners. We go straight for the power :slight_smile: Nothing like a chainsaw to do fast work right!! We would be lost without them on our property. I was so on the fence to buy what you got cause of the smaller size and it is more useful as a landscape tool but I wanna sell this farm and leave so I am just using the big ol Stihl chainsaws we do own. Don’t wanna buy another but I am super happy ya got good equip. I tell ya, the right equip for the job makes the job so much easier!! That is a nice brand…should last ya forever :slight_smile: Cool JJ…super glad to ya got some down time from your busy schedule…to do, what, relax, nope, you start chainsawing your way thru your property…love it!!

@Shinita
yea the cat’s meow! here is some info on it. Seems the UK has alot of pull on this saying also :slight_smile:
https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=4dff208855d8e726JmltdHM9MTY3MTU4MDgwMCZpZ3VpZD0zZjExMzJmZi1iNzc2LTZhNzMtMGFlYS0yMDlhYjY1YTZiMTMmaW5zaWQ9NTE4MQ&ptn=3&hsh=3&fclid=3f1132ff-b776-6a73-0aea-209ab65a6b13&psq=where+did+saying+cat’s+meow+come&u=a1aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cud2lkZW9wZW5wZXRzLmNvbS90aGUtY2F0cy1tZW93LW1lYW5pbmcv&ntb=1

I don’t know why my links are coming out so big? LOL but if ya click it you can read up on the ‘cat’s meow’ and the ‘cat’s pajamas’ too!

------------so today is hit pharmacy for seizure meds for poochie. then hit liquor store cause I am bringing a small bottle of good ol’ rum with me on this beach trip :slight_smile: gotta say happy New Year somehow rigth? heehee
then might hit grocery store for water, soda for the crap soda drinkers, and get some snacks for them for the RV on this trip. I like making a few hits to the store to stock RV. Won’t load them up too much, I don’t like buying all that crap they like, lol. but on a trip I gotta get them something, plus check meat counter for sales. I am gearing at alot of pork loin and burgers for me on this trip. easy storage in my little freezer plus super fast cook to plate. Yup I will survive ZC as usual.

then home to get college apps going for kiddo. omg I don’t know how to navigate the college world…seems foreign to me at my age now LOL but we will get thru it.

today got a Tbone defrosting. and burger. done deal. woke up with no food focus kinda today so that is good. but after seeing bacon on the pics, hmm, bacon is now on my mind :slight_smile:

ZC!!

#175

Thanks for the link, @Fangs! I can’t wait to read about the cat’s pajamas :smiley: But I don’t have much to say anyway so I will be quick!

I got hungry at 1pm but just barely, don’t need food yet and my appetite is firmly negative so no food for me in the near future (it’s 2:38 now). The baby hunger passed anyway.
I will have pork roast and smoked mackerel and we will see. I have plenty of eggy dish I like. I just stop eating sausages for now, it’s more like for some extra bites, I shouldn’t plan them into my day even if I don’t want to make another roast yet… I have leftovers for now, one of my fav cheeses and I love eggs too.

Alvaro has the usual Christmas lunch thing with his coworkers today. It’s his last workday this year and the first week of January will be free too! (Mandatory holiday so they have moderately few free holiday days per year. He likes to make his already 3-4 days weeks longer ;))

Tits eat up their sunflower seeds and walnuts like crazy, we need to get more… Just because other people feed them too, I just can’t stop giving them a lot every day :smiley: The feeder is empty most of the time anyway, the birds are quick! And hopefully very well-fed at this point. A big walnut piece for a tiny lil bird? And who knows how much else it eats…? Lovely things, I like to watch them from the kitchen window.

(Karen) #176

Fotgot to mention that i completed the 100 push ups yesterday lol … accountabiity is key hahaha

Up about 8.30 ish this morning. 50 stair runs and downstairs to take meds, BP which was nice and low… always drops after doing the stair runs, read my books and drank 2 black coffees. Before i knew it it was after midday and so i had some brunch, the last of the cooked chicken fried up with 2 rashers of bacon and a knob of butter chucked in for good measure. Added butter once plated as the chicen breasty bit needed it. Very nice and felt full afterwards.

Well @Fangs that narrow boat water can just looked so nice amongst my greenery in the lounge that i decided to keep it :blush: anyway Sian would have just told me off for spending money on her and she can always have it once i pass over the rainbow lol :smile: On my way home from dropping Raymond off yesterday i stopped at the Marie Curie charity shop after lidls and found another wooden cat to go with the one i bought her for xmas. It is a curled up sleeping cat and the other one is one that sits on a shelf looking down. So she can either have one on the worktop looking down to the floor where the other is sleeping or use them as shelf bookends for her cookery books! :blush:

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Finally after about 2.5yrs i got round to replacing all the crystals that had fallen off a 2nd hand ballroom dress i bought at a social dance and it is now ready to wear to the New Years Eve dance.

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#177

No photo of the cat…? :pleading_face:

I would love wooden bookend cats… Or gargoyles, I am not particularly choosy.

Meanwhile I had a smallish lunch at 3:30pm hoping it helps with my headache. It didn’t but Alvaro brought painkillers and they kind of did. Yay. He brought a lot of food with various level of edibility as well. Drinks too. It seems they got a combo, food gift and Christmas money too ($52, it’s quite pitiful even for us - the bonus I never got was 9 times bigger 20 years ago and we have big inflation… - but well, still more than nothing).

I had pork roast, leftover beef liver (finally it’s gone), sponge cakes, cheese and “marshmallow” fluff. With butter instead of cream so it wasn’t as great but nice and useful when I am still hungry but can’t stomach more meat or normal egg dishes. My appetite wasn’t good. I am just not interested in food but still need to eat.

(Judy Thompson) #178

@Fangs thank you. I had a great time with the saw the other day, then it got cold! We’re gonna cut oak branches with the 2 chainsaws (his is a gas one, a Ryobi) when it’s warmer - probably this afternoon.

Your new years trip sounds awesome - a cat’s meow of a trip :slight_smile: I bet they do fireworks on the beach and I know Bolt :nut_and_bolt: and DD love it out there too! And at least you don’t have to worry about jellyfish bites this time of year :star_struck:

Lastnight, scrambled eggs and polska.

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Working on the Christmas lyric books since Sunday, 50 songs, pretty equally divided between sacred and secular Christmas songs. Went through it for typos this morning, so now ready to print 15 or 20 copies and bind for the sing along tomorrow night. Luckily some of the folks sing - we don’t really. :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

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Took the chicken from the sous vide bath and iced it earlier, and just boned the little sucker. He should get us through Saturday lunches especially if my brother doesn’t come with the temps dropping and their car acting iffy. Tomorrow is our shopping and restaurant day.

Tonight we go to the roadhouse, it’s a caroling pickers circle :notes:

A great ZC holiday to all!

(Judy Thompson) #179

@Karen18 LOVE that water can! Sian is missing out but it’s PERFECT in your garden!

(Karen) #180

Sorry they’ve been wrapped but i will try and remember to take a pic on Boxing day when she unwraps them. They’re wooden and pretty heavy and not dainty lil things either… they could be used as door stops lol xx

(Karen) #181

I dont think i will risk putting it in the garden in case it rusts even though it would usually be seen on the roof of the narrow boat … i like it amongst the in door plants and you cant see in that photo but above the mantlepiece i have a small oval green framed mirror which picks up the colours from the can. Yes she missed out … maybe i should go back to the cafe and buy the narrow boat metal bucket for her … it would look nice with logs in but she isnt going to have a log burner lol … that was royal blue with flowers on so i wouldnt be tempted to keep it even though it is beautiful … a little more expensive though!