TreatyMeatyCarnivore December!


#81

you know I try to figure that in actually cause I am one of those, hmm, super frugal type people and WHEN I GET there, they could say I am out of roasts now, truck comes tomorrow. So agree, always a crap shoot truly on that 'go hit the sale but is the sale in the cooler waiting for me to buy it :slight_smile: ugh, you had me cracking up on that one VE!


#82

Wow. Our sunflower seeds are just normal tiny things, not a present :smiley: Alvaro’s Mom buy them as she gets them cheap in the market. We pick it up (3kg so it will last for some while, the tits make amazingly quick work of their food and the odd sparrow helps) tomorrow :slight_smile:
But Alvaro’s brother gave us cat food for one Christmas :slight_smile: We appreciated it :slight_smile: No huge gifts in this family, usually. Though Alvaro’s Mom always gave us the best practical gifts galore so the total isn’t so tiny. Like soft towels, pyjamas, shower gel, coffee :smiley: Oh we need to tell her no more shower gels or scarves as we have enough for almost forever. But she is extremely good at guessing what we need and like. Alvaro and I? Just horrible, no good or any ideas (Mom was awful too, I still have bad memories :smiley: once she was great and gave me a notebook and a pen for Christmas, I think that was my best gift - except when I was very little and got a robot that worked for at least an hour… but that was a superb hour. I totally ADORE such things, meaning the notebook and pen. I am so easy, give me a nice pencil or two and I will be happy. One never can have too many pencils, I learned that when I had dozens and once I managed to lose and scatter all of them somewhere and didn’t find any at the moment) so we never give any gift to anyone. Except edible things and when the rare inspiration hits. And now I pay for her new armchair and probably more, IDK how much such a thing costs.

Oh yesterday. Of course I ate again. And again. Until I went over 130g protein and (significantly beyond) a pound of meat, typical. From now on I totally focus on meat and protein, OMAD isn’t like non-OMAD and it’s so sad when eating my precious pork chuck roast becomes a chore or impossible because my scrambled eggs almost satiated me already. Order is important. I used to start with eggs as I enjoy them when hungry but they are meh after meat even if I don’t want more meat. But with my super quick satiation nowadays… Better to focus on meat so that way I may get enough. I always can drink my eggs or eat them as dessert (the fluff originally marshmallow thing I totally love with cream instead of sweetener) if needed. I mean, after some little break.

Today I simply don’t have a whole pound of meat but we will see. Maybe it will be enough with eggs and cheese, maybe I open some fish tin/spread.

But at least I am good at skipping lunch. This week I had my first meal around 6pm except when it was at 5pm due to Alvaro eating his lunch early. I started my OMAD trial last week, the beginning wasn’t this good but I had 5:30, 6, 4:15 and 3 for my first meal and even 3 isn’t so bad for weekend days…
I am curious what happens tomorrow when I spend the morning in various supermarkets and buy a ton of food. That usually have some effect. Probably not the food, the walking and tiredness and stress…? But I will try not to eat too early.
And I plan to buy leaner and fattier meat alike and test which works best for my OMAD plans. I used to eat way more from pork shoulder, it may be useful. But I am not sure I can reach 130g protein in one sitting. Well no problem with 2 meals if that goes smoothly… But 2 meals with pork shoulder caused my 1000g meat, 4100 kcal day so I am careful. I didn’t have my first meal at 6pm then, though… Maybe it matters. Maybe not. 6pm is so early, it’s very possible for me to eat many meals afterwards… Or two bigger ones.
I will experiment with eating later if I don’t get hungry early. I barely have any experience with that. It wasn’t good, my body decided it’s not my proper eating window anymore and I lost my joy and couldn’t even eat a decent meal BUT maybe I changed. Or just had the wrong food choice back then. And who cares about joy when super determined and a bit desperate :slight_smile: Temporarily. I need my joy from eating eventually. And prefer to get it all the time but it doesn’t always happen and it’s fine. I cook so I have my food joy. 3 different things for Alvaro’s lunch today… It’s so good I don’t need to cook for myself this early, I couldn’t do it in these days. We have serious electricity limits, I can’t use 2 induction cookers (and I don’t have more and they are simple, not double standalone ones, it’s a problem sometimes), the oven and the microwave at the same time and sometimes the situation is worse. Too many machines on the same… circle? IDK the English term for it. But it’s fine, just need some planning and attention when I need to cook 5 different things on the same day… As I wrote, just Alvaro’s lunch needs 3 today. All will last for days but this time the actual cooking had to be done at the same time.

Indeed. People may forget this. And it’s not just the gas, the cost of 1km by a car is way more as there is wear and tear. We used to calculate these things, of course we used the original price of our vehicles too as that is part of the whole thing but that changed all the time, of course.
Our bicycles have a surprisingly high price per km too, by the way. Not as much as the vehicles with gas but pretty high. They need a costly repair after very few kms compared to the car, we use them on terrain a lot, especially Alvaro (they are normal bicycles so it’s nothing extreme, just the forest but still)… I am sure many people think their km cost is “free”. Oh no, far from it. And they weren’t expensive ones.

Sometimes when I see some super good sale on the normal supermarkets we don’t have here, I wonder if I could cycle 2x20km for something… It’s not a huge distance but me and cycling… I am rusty now and sitting wasn’t so great after our last tiny cycling… It changes quickly but if I skip month… Though my arms are the ones who complain most and nothing helps, they will get problems after long trips. Once we did a super long one for me, IDK, way over the 40km we did multiple times without problems (hard due to elevation here and there but nice if we choose the scenic route). I couldn’t sleep on my preferred side for months afterwards. I know I must do something wrong but I can’t fix it. It’s good enough, I am fine with small trips.

EDIT:
I found a piece of meat separated from the others so nope, there wasn’t a pound of meat yesterday but I have enough for today! Yay.

And I had lunch today in the end. A tiny one. I better appreciate times when I can eat if my meals are that small.


(Karen) #83

-3° this morning so i plumbed for sitting in the lounge to read and drink my coffee before dollying up for the tea dance at Lichfield this afternoon. Raymond wanted to come along if just for the social sode of it, however he managed a few dances albeit they were slow ones and he stepped quite gingerly. Made no odds for me i have got quite used yo dancing with dodgery guys with mobility issues lol
Didnt eat till i got home and fortunately had put a beef roast in the slow cooker overnight which was ready to dig into. It looked a bit dry in the pic but it was quite nice with the juices poured over it and i managed to get through about 3/5ths of it. Had a small chunk of vintage cheddar and some more of the deli sausage which i didn’t really enjoy.


(Alec) #84

6 minute k’s for an endurance run… nice! Do you have a target race in mind?

I am a parkrun addict (actually just about to go and be the local parkrun Run Director at this morning’s local parkrun), and trying to get my 5k time under 26 minutes by the end of this year. I did 26.50 last week, and I am improving by about a minute per month, so I am going to get close.

I am finding that carnivore is really helping me run better… weight loss, strength gains, consistency, faster recovery, running on fat and ketones as fuel. As you can hear, I am a carnivore fan! :joy:


#85

Not a bad day. I ate twice, around 3 and half past 7. Super full now but I used every tricks to get my guesstimated 114g protein and 120g fat (and about 8g carbs, mostly from eggs and cheese but there was a tiny bit plant matter too in the very end, it’s not easy to eat enough for me now)…
Not bad but I need some carnivore dessert at hand if I want proper carnivore (well, whatever I call proper, I already have a relaxed idea with spice, processed meat and some condiments). Or some fun deli meat. At least cream or sour cream… I like to avoid midnight meals and I still couldn’t eat enough meat for some reason. But hopefully it will change soon.

I wonder if drinking more calories would help… I will test it, even if just out of curiosity, not as a longer term solution. Though very soft-boiled eggs are fit for that too. But a big coffee with 8 yolks, maybe not :wink: Well at that point it rather would be some coffee flavored eggy dessert…

But I STILL didn’t test eating a bunch of meat first, I somehow started with eggs. I should focus.


(Linda ) #86

Idk our stores always have standing rib roasts on sale for holidays and they usually have lots in stock…you could call before you go…ill often buy two or three keep a whole one and get them to cut the other two down into bone in steaks…

So today was three small meals…i decided I felt like bacon and eggs but didn’t really want bacon and eggs as normal so I got one egg and 2 thick slices of bacon blended it up Made it into a chaffle it was so good I ate the same thing for all three meals…so 3 eggs 6 slices of bacon was my food today and added extra fat, plus a pinch of cheese to make them crispy and my 2 fatty coffee .


#87

I saw lamb ribs in a supermarket paper. Alvaro’s salary could buy 12kg… Wow. More expensive than fancy beef (or it must be super fancy). Isn’t that a tiny bit expensive…? Seriously now.

We start with the hypermarket (with the huge meat department) tomorrow morning, I want some cute -50% stuff if possible, beef liver and I check out the ruminants… And the seafood. Christmas is near. I asked Alvaro today, he isn’t very attached to salmon. Me either, I loved it in the past but not so much now, the wonderful raw salmon in Japanese restaurants ruined the cooked one for me :slight_smile: It IS nice but not nice enough for that price. Some nice pork is much tastier :stuck_out_tongue:


(J) #88

Nothing in mind, particularly. Had an even more leisurely trek today. Really just focusing on getting “Zone 2” cardio in. Occasionally testing my 1 miles (Still haven’t gotten under 7 minutes, yet). So far, I just find it therapeutic.


(J) #89

I meant to add a hearty congrats on the 5k progress! Power on!


(Karen) #90

Slept crappy last night, ended up going downstairs and watching some TV for haf n hour or so and eventually managed to drop off. I thought i had had a tossy turny night but my fitbit still said i managed to get 7 hours! Certainly wasnt a good 7 hours so i cancelled CrossFit and dozed off for another hour. zzzzzzzz lovely. Got up and did 50 stair runs and then into lounge to read and have my coffee. The sun hadnt come around enough to sit outside first thing, till about 10, so i went outside for half n hour then.

I had a late brunch and finished the beef roast (done in slow cooker) cold … prefer it hot. Also heated up the juice/stock and had that as a drink.

Dinner was buffalo chicken wings … they were okay but not as good as i have previously had from lidl. I have another pack in the fridge to eat too :roll_eyes: hope they taste a bit better. So as i wasnt really satisfied i fried up the remaining thighs in the beef fat (from searing the beef in dry pan) added a small pat of butter and they were quite nice that way. I also had a tin of tuna while the chicken wings were in the oven as i was hungry-ish.
100 push ups completed.


#91

We visited 4 super- and hypermarkets today. Alvaro’s bank was bought by another and it reset the limit, apparently and we didn’t know we almost used it all up in the first, biggest one… Fortunately we had enough cash for the rest.

Okay, there are cheaper lamb but it’s still very expensive. I saw cheaper red deer than that.
I saw ribeye, it’s super rare. it’s over $10 per pound, yeah, not something I will try soon.

Pork is miserable but at least everything fit into the freezer…
Almost whatever proper pork I wanted to buy, it was sold out :frowning: Good thing we go again on Monday… Hopefully it’s just the Saturday (evening, the last shop is where we get the leaner pork, usually).
But I got pork chuck :smiley: And various processed meats, even ham this time, just a bit to try, not cheap. The cheap ones has lots of water, sugar, MSG etc. They lost me at the much water. But it’s just a little thing so I am fine with a proper, more expensive one.

Seafood is miserable (or expensive but usually both) too. We are very choosy. I dislike quid, don’t think much about moussels but would try but Alvaro doesn’t want it at all. We like shrimps and similar things but they are super expensive and I wanted some interesting mix anyway… Fishes are better but this time we just bought a lot of cheap hake (spices make wonders and I like the texture and variety) and a smoked mackerel :smiling_face_with_three_hearts: That will be the star of our Christmas. But I want shrimps too… But they still aren’t substantial enough to spend a lot of money for it. Though I realized I need to update my mind about what is much money, after this huge inflation…

It’s good I look at prices in various supermarkets as some items are super different. Like, twice as expensive on sale and no, there is no big flavor or quality difference. Sometimes it’s exactly the same…

I will be off for a little while, well not so much as today was a big hit, I mean the bad way. There was chicken and baked stuff I always loved. It wasn’t nearly as enjoyable as it was in the past, I just couldn’t stop eating it, dammit. :sob:
better don’t START next time :frowning: But I do things so well nowadays, fine, not always but I usually have various circumstances piled up…
And there was worse, we always get a package each for Saint Nicholas day (we are totally kids for Alvaro’s Mom) and I tasted it because… No idea, really. I always reacted worst to such stuff…
Maybe my very short sleep and the bad weather played a role. And December and my December plans. Though they involved something more proper made by me… It was quite idiotic… Sigh.

And now I have a bellyache (very serious level of carb poisoning in my world, I never stayed to see what comes even later. I almost never get it after just ONE meal. that started pretty good anyway, I ate a big drumstick and a big thigh). I almost never have regrets regarding whatever I eat but I have it now. Though it couldn’t be helped I suppose. Still, I would like to think even when sleepy and tired and in a blooming December holiday mood.
Fortunately I never feel any guilt over my eating (I don’t even understand the concept I think), it must be a horrible feeling. Even less hedonistic than carb/sugar poisoning myself and that’s something.

But I had an OMAD today… I ate at 13:15. Only had coffees later.

Tomorrow I will walk if the rain allows, today was mildly rainy, SnugglePie arrived like a drowned rat not long ago… I rarely use a towel on the cats but now I did on her…

I probably will be off and on from now on until Christmas for reasons, my webshop order arrived and I have experiments to do. Mostly very low-carb ones, I am not a masochist… I will bake a lot too, it’s that time but I do my best to feed the result to Alvaro. It never works fully for long but at least I do some training and it will get better.

I don’t have proper supplies right now anyway. We almost totally run out of eggs and forgot to go to the village greengrocery first thing. We bought okay-ish (code 2, not the common code 3 but it surely doesn’t say much for you) but more expensive eggs in the hypermarket but only 10. We need to buy pork and eggs on Monday or else things will be tricky and hardly carnivore. And that wouldn’t be good for me. I can throw in some plantier, slightly carbier day here and there in need, that’s already dangerous but that’s it. I need my pork and eggs for very nearly every day, in proper amount and variety.

I start to desire January at this point, December is very bad for carnivore for me while January is perfect - even if I blew it last year somehow… I am in a better relationship with meat now :slight_smile: I don’t really desire it right now but well, I am full.
And if I want any pork, that’s the leaner one I don’t have.

I have moment envying snakes again. I know I love enjoying my food, even cooking but it’s so horrible I need to spend the whole day on shopping and then cooking, planning, worrying about my supplies… And I do it simple compared to so very many people…

I try to be scarce. Just wanted to talk about my shopping, actually.

I bought plenty of sausages, various kinds. The cheapest kind (not the cheapest one, I remembered reading ingredients lists, just the type is the cheapest), the most soft and watery but it has its role in certain dishes Alvaro wants to make. My usual soft one, a nice brand was on sale, I had enough of misses lately… And 2 different dry ones. One had some not ideal ingredient but it’s tiny and it had beef and very much meat… The other is spicy and the ingredients list was nice. Meat, salt, spices.
And I bought a big smoked pork hock from the meat counter. I remember it was very good last time. No idea about the ingredients list but it was fine and it’s basically impossible to get one without anything I don’t want but if I don’t feel, it should be good enough. At least it’s not a watery stuff.
My over 3kg pork chuck piece has bones, I will have nice soups…
We bought quite a few cheeses despite all of them are expensive nowadays. We like variety, there were sales and they aren’t big and last long :slight_smile:
And there was quark on sale too as usual. And one of my fav milks. Butter. I wouldn’t feel so great with only 120g butter for the rest of the year, I need some for baking too! Just a bit, I simply ignore any recipe with much butter in it.

I didn’t see price jumps this time.

Oh I bought beef liver! Whenever I mention the stuff, Alvaro feels very important to tell me very firmly that it’s MINE. He won’t touch it. As if it would be something negative, more for me! :wink: I hope it will be just as nice as the last (and first) time I tried the stuff.
Oh turkey gizzard is so expensive! I am not interested, I am into the non-organ meat only if it’s turkey.
And I bought 4 pork tongues as well. I cook them for a long time and 4 fits my smallish pot, we both love it very much, not much sense to buy less :wink: Yum.
But I bought chicken liver too, it’s a staple, after all and I run out of it lately.

So I have variety galore for my proper carni times, I should last longer than ever! At least I hope so. But I am sure I will go over my 2 week carnivore record at some point. If not right away after Christmas (it’s possible I will drink something mildly interesting on the 31th, I can’t do everything I really, really planned until and at Christmas), later. No fruit season until June, I need to use the chance. (I have my last fruit season of the year right now but that’s not a problem. And it ends soon anyway.)

I totally need to show you all that I am actually able to do carnivore for more than a few days without facing any temptation (as I don’t resist them and hardly ever will). And I will.
But I let myself out now, bye and best wishes to everyone!

EDIT: I imagine my poor little cells struggling and now I do feel guilty. Now I feel even worse and I had it pretty bad already with sleep deprivation and severe sugar poisoning (without even proper joy while eating the stuff). My body is so amazing and I hurt it. :cry:
Oh nope, my self-protection unit shut up the quilt. It went quickly. I still feel physically pretty bad, I was never good with any kind of pain, not even tiny ones if they last for long.
But bedtime is near and hopefully tomorrow will be much better.


(J) #92

Have I ever mentioned I like steak n’ eggs?


#93

sorry that sleep is still annoying ya K!
but isn’t it nice we live that retirement life where we can do whatever we want with our time. Not like one can cancel work to sleep in :slight_smile: but one can change around their fun retire type schedule to get some good sleep :slight_smile: Hope this turns around better for ya!! Nice food pics!!

Your huper markets didn’t sound great from that shop description. And I so get ya on having to update the brain on prices. I also am having many ‘sticker shock’ moments in the stores!! I am not accepting these big price increases yet either. I can so relate S!

wow you sound like ya nailed yourself pretty bad on this one. I hope you can sleep thru and wake up feeling alot better!!! I hate any type of sick and I know you are feeling that way too so hoping you come around ok soon! Worst thing is ya didn’t enjoy it. To me that equals making it all worse too, :slight_smile:

SWEET pics! I swear I commented on a pic just like that over in my zc forums on facebook LOL but probably a fluke, so many of us post pics like that but yours seems so familiar in some way :slight_smile: :slight_smile:
Steak and eggs, that is a very nice plate of food jh!!

-----------------today is whatever day. rainy, misty foggy, damp, cold and BLAH. Ick.

this is my pork loin from yesterday. Sliced it thin. 1.1 lb. I ate 90% and put up a few slices into fridge to eat leftover today. I like to slice thin cause I can cook it in fry pan in butter in a split second. I don’t like dry ol’ pork from the oven anymore. Fast finger food and yea I ate it fast and it was delish :slight_smile: Got a 1.2 lb. Tbone steak defrosting.
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ZC on strong all!


(Karen) #94

Pork looks nice, is it fillet? I find it too lean for me but i used yo eat it quite a bit years ago… pork hongrose i believe we called it, done a bit like beef stroganoff…as i don’t touch cream since keto days i wouldnt make it these days, aso i believe there was a bit of fungi in the recipe… even more reason not to make it lol.


(Karen) #95

Food on a lazy day … brunch 2 fried eggs and 6 chipolatas wrapped in bacon … sort of pigs in blankets only not cocktail size.
Later had a tin of tuna then the second pack of chicken wings which were nicer than yesterdays and now on to 3 rashers of bacon which stays nice and big… not all shrunken to nothing :laughing:


(Judy Thompson) #96


Yesterday was a long day! We spent today exhausted, sleeping some, skipped church. Here is breakfast, both of us said that would be our meal for the day, maybe a snack tonight. (you can see Mimsy’s dehydrated chicken breast treats behind my plate.)

Yesterday we played a wedding at the winery, the 2 of us, then raced over to the restaurant for the gig. Up late chatting and planning. We expect to be called for more weddings and we need to write a better book.
Getting ready to go to the restaurant to play the 3 hour gig.
Lastnight some people let me take a pic of their 2 seafood towers for you. They were right at the beginning of the meal so I was excited to get it!


#97

Pretty! :smiley:
And yep, probably pretty good too. (Still don’t know what a steak is like, I REALLY will change it in 2023 already!)


(Linda ) #98

Todays food 2 XL fatty coffee and two bacon and egg chaffles with pinch of cheese to make them crunchy…


(Karen) #99

Those chaffles look nice but i couldnt get on with them. I ended up giving my waffle maker away after one use!

Up normal time today and did 70 stair runs although i have run up and down a few times more since, 100 push ups done.

Sat in lounge to read with my coffee this morning as it was about -3 outside and overcast. I dont mind sitting outside in the cold if the sun is out but as i am still trying to get rid of the end of this cough … now 8wks in, i thought better of sitting and getting too much cold air into my lungs.

I had put some pork chops in slow cooker over night and so about midday-ish i ate the larger chop of the pack and saved the rest for later in the day. I finished them off after returning from a bank and xmas shop run. After the remaining chops i had some lovely cheese and then a tin of tuna. I also had a drink of beef stock during the day.


#100

I am not well, sleep and paperwork problems but it’s kinda over now, well after I have a very long sleep (my problem was not being able to sleep until super late and had to wake up too early compared to that).

I got meat! :smiley: And no eggs :sob:
It was the first time the greengrocery had none. They always had so many, we always bought 90 without a problem. But they get some more tomorrow so hopefully Alvaro can buy 50.

We had wonderful sunshine today but I was too unwell to appreciate it. It was quite cold and windy, there is ice everywhere now.

We got chicken at Alvaro’s Mom again. It’s always chicken but I don’t complain (just prefer my pork). Did I say she stopped buying sour cream due to its price? The item is absolutely essential for us and anyway, we don’t use it willy-nilly… Yogurt would cost more to me except I would eat it up quickly and wouldn’t have any for weeks… Sour cream is more worthy, fattier, richer, I need way less but it’s something I really appreciate. And lots of dishes require it. Or something more expensive like cream.

It was a cheesy day but well, I had to spare the eggs… I didn’t go too far with this luxury item that any cheese is but I had some nice Gouda :slight_smile: Yum. I made the usual cheesy fluff for Alvaro - and myself too, actually, mine got sausage (and no yolk, that is super precious right now as we barely have any) instead of the cheese cube inside. As usual.
It wasn’t even planned to be a proper carnivore day, it was a problematic day for me but tomorrow I come back, finally. It will feel great. I roasted a big piece of leaner pork this evening and I have plenty of other items even without eggs but I do have some eggs if it’s a must.