This BG stuff is p/ssing me off!

(icky) #41

Well, Sue, I doubt it’s that, but amyloidosis DOES have diarrhea and feeling faint as 2 of the main symptoms!

#42

Crazy busy at the office today so this will be a quickie:
Thanks for the video - I will definitely watch it tonight.
Today I’m feeling better, started to feel the beginning of an episode but it didn’t get worse. I changed a few things today, don’t know if that helped or not… going to take more than a few hours to see.

I have no thyroid: I have Graves Disease so had it removed. But yes, I knew (while I still had one) that iodine was something I had to watch. Now that I don’t have a thyroid I don’t think it’s an issue, thank goodness.

I really appreciate all of you pitching in to try and help me solve this. Today I’m just praying that whatever it is is gone. I’ll let you know in a few days. (fingers crossed).
Sue

(icky) #43

Well, Keto can affect your thyroid levels (transformation of T4 to T3 is done in body tissues outside of the thyroid) so could you get your thyroid levels checked? (A thorough test showing T4, T3, rT3 etc, not just the TSH !)

The symptoms of too much or too little thyroid hormones are really yuck and weird and include feeling faint and hypoglycaemic etc…

(icky) #44

Btw this is because the body uses carbs/ insulin to transform T4 into T3. So in low carb, this rate can be affected, leading to too low T3 levels.

(YES, I have been researching HEAPS)

(Yet again :joy: )

#45

Yup, you’re preaching to the choir on fluctuating TSH levels and the awful physical effects of changing levels. I have my blood checked every 3 months (or sooner if I feel the symptoms of a change) and am very sensitive to even the tiniest dose changes (surprise, surprise!) I can tweak it by 2 mcg. per day and you will see my TSH either plummet or crash down… it’s ridiculous. I seem to be forever on a TSH rollercoaster and have tried to figure out why, and I did notice a big change when I first went keto. That’s why I would like to STAY in a keto way of life - consistency is the best medicine.

I appreciate your suggestion that I go off keto for a few days and then start again but NO WAY IN HELL! LOL I do NOT want to go through the beginning stages again and if this is keto flu or some mineral deficiency, I want to get stable and STAY stable.

Anyway, you research freak (you may be almost as bad as me!) … go read something and then share your new wisdom with us. :):grin:

(icky) #46

Hey @Sue777

So from your reply, I assume what you’re saying is “It’s not TSH/ thyroid fluctuation - I know what that feels like and the current symptoms are different”?

How are you doing today? Any more episodes or near misses?

How long have you been doing without Swerve now - 2 days?

Take your time to respond - my work week has been crazy too! :blush:

(icky) #47

Hey Sue,

here’s a good article on Keto and Thyroid:

https://blog.virtahealth.com/does-your-thyroid-need-dietary-carbohydrates/

(icky) #48

Oooooh, Sue, just saw Phinney saying in a youtube video that Butyrate Enemas can be super helpful for colitis!

I am going to do this for my IBS.

Also, I’m going to do pre-biotics and pro-biotics with resistant starch, because he says the colon wants fibre plus a good gut biome to produce it’s own Butyrate because that’s what stops inflammation in the colon. But if you’re not getting this naturally/ from your diet plus gut biome, then you can substitue Butyrate enemas instead.

This is the video:

He starts talking about it (starting with resistant starch) at 34 mins

(icky) #49

Here’s a “how to” re making a DIY Butyrate and probiotic enema

I’ve been wondering about pro-biotic enemas for IBS for years but haven’t found helpful information previously.

#50

Are you eating enough? What are your sugar levels normally vs when you start feeling like that?

(icky) #51

Seems you can get butyrate suppositories too, not just home-made enemas.

#52

I think so, Lfod… I usually skip breakfast but have a good lunch, an afternoon snack, and a good dinner. When I’m having these episodes my BG reading is always between 90 and 100. (shrug).
Sue

#53

OK, Woman, first you hijacked the thread with the salt discussion, now with colitis enemas. That’s two - three strikes and you’re OUT! :wink: :smile:

You CAN start a thread, ya know. LOL
Sue

(icky) #54

Blood glucose

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(sorry!)

:kissing_heart:

#55

So your not actually going hypo, just the symptoms of it. Are you using any tracking apps like cronometer so you can see all your nutrient intake?

#56

Correct, and I THINK that’s the sign of reactive hypoglycemia… symptoms of but not actual BG crashes. I use Carb Manager to track my macros and nutrients.
Sue

#57

From all the reading on RH I have done (which is quite extensive, since I have it myself), then RHers can get reactive hypo symptoms from actually having a hypo OR from blood glucose levels dropping very fast, even if their blood glucose doesn’t drop into hypo territory. Both can produce hypo symptoms and both can make you feel really rough.

For clarity, and speaking from my own experience, I would get hypo symptoms in situations like this:
i) my blood glucose has dipped below about 3.2 mmol/l (that is around 60 American units), or
ii) my blood glucose spikes silly high, then drops sharply, for instance a high of 12 and a drop to 5mmol/l within the space of an hour (that is around 225 down to 90 American units).

Which begs the question, @Sue777
If your tests reveal that your blood glucose levels are normal, then are you having the highs and the lows immediately beforehand in a short space of time?

#58

Yes. What Brunneria said. I don’t have to go hypo to have a reaction. What I need is a sudden DROP in BG. A similar analogy-- kids who have febrile seizures. Their temp might not go that high-- it’s the very sudden rise, not necessarily the degree of fever, that can lead to a febrile seizure.

You know anyone who could loan you a continuous BG monitor for a few weeks lol?

#59

Thanks Brunneria and Noapples… that’s what I’ve read, too; that it is the sudden, rapid change (either up or down) that causes the symptoms. I always assumed I was feeling the effects of the sudden drop but I can only guess that my BG is rising before that? I only feel the symptoms on the way down (I think, but now I don’t know). I don’t normally test my blood when I’m not feeling badly … maybe I should start.

I think some of us are just too darned sensitive to the changes that happen in our bodies and I suppose that could be a good thing, but for the most part, I wish I wasn’t so darned aware of every process.
Sue