This BG stuff is p/ssing me off!

#21

Very much so in ketosis: my urine strips, my breath meter and my ketone blood strips confirm it… have been for at least a solid week. Before that I would see traces in urine, then traces in blood, but now all three measurements are loud and clear.
Sue

(icky) #22

So from what I can glean from google, the average person on the SAD diet eats 3400 mg of salt in total, per day.

This is considered “too much” by a whole bunch of “health experts”, but WHATEVER, right?

So 3400 mg sounds pretty okay to me.

But why eat one to two teaspoons of salt per day on Keto??

#23

So here’s another possible n=1 type of thing (yes, Sugar Addict, another oddity!)…
I wonder if Swerve is doing awful things to my insulin surges and BG crashes? Everything I’ve read said that Swerve does NOT affect it, but perhaps my body hasn’t read those reports. The only thing different about my keto experience this time around is that I bought Swerve and have made some fat bombs and keto sweet treats with it. I will stop eating those to see if these episodes disappear (please, God?) but I did have one last night, even though it was preceded and followed by lots of fat, but perhaps something about my particular chemistry doesn’t like it and it signals my body to produce too much insulin?

(icky) #24

:joy: :+1:t3:

(Anderson Herzogenrath Da Costa) #25

Looks like hypoglycemia. Try measuring your BG during an episode if it ever happens again.
It might happen if you have a insulin spike without glucose (like some sweeteners cause).

#26

Always do! I keep a BG monitor at home and at the office! I check during, 20 minutes after, an hour after, then eat something and check again, etc. My BG numbers don’t do anything that would set off a red flag. As a matter of fact, they are probably numbers that most people would envy. I should be glad of that, but it’s frustrating!
Sue

(Edith) #27

I bought some diet soda sweetened with stevia. I can drink things sweetened with aspartame and things sweetened with erythritol just fine, but after having the soda with stevia, I was very hungry when I finished the drink. So, maybe it is the erythritol for you.

(Kristin ) #28

I had low potassium in the beginning of my keto journey and was constantly feeling like I wanted to vomit. It could definitely be electrolytes- esp if BG is normal! Mine felt like I was hypoglycemic, but same- no BG problems when I tested it.

#29

Hi again Sue,
So what I neglected to say earlier (as I was busy making keto pizza!) is that I’m also T1D with amazing BG results for a T1D now (since going keto WOE). I test BGs minimum of 8/day: all good.

I appreciate N=1 so based on other knowledgeable comments from our friends you need to analyse the N=1 and maybe try ONE AT A TIME and see what works for you. Please give at least a week/change to experience positive results.

I’ve never used artificial sweeteners of any kind in 45 years of T1D.

You already know we’re all unique. :smile:
Best wishes Ali

(Ron) #30

Because your needs don’t seem to require a higher salt intake does not mean that it does not benefit others. Again, an n=1 thing. There are many variables at play including diabetes, weight, energy expenditure, ,arrhythmia’s, and maybe even bodily salt desensitizing ??, etc.
I personally have established a base line of approximately 8000 mg daily sodium intake and since salt is comprised of about 40% sodium, well you can do the math. Point is, that from your “opinion”, this much is a whole bunch.
Nothing more to say about it as your looking for some specific science’s and I’m not qualified to support this and disagreeing on opinion is futile.
Some interesting reading should you choose.
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2017/09/03/547827356/has-salt-gotten-an-unfair-shak

#31

I’m assuming that response was directed at Sugar-addict?

(Ron) #32

Yes it was Sue. :+1::wink:

(icky) #33

Sure, I’d just like to understand the science. Everyone’s free to do the n=1 stuff that suits them. I was told I’d need copious amounts of salt on Keto and it is not true. Just trying to understand why some people seem to.

Anyway, @Sue777 seems to be sure that it’s not a lack of salt causing her issues, so we’ve gotten off-topic with the salt.

@Sue777 how are you going today? Any BG episodes? Have you ditched the Swerve for now?

If it turns out not to be the Swerve, could you re-start Keto?

Just go out of it for a few days and then start again?

Who knows what’s going on with your body - all the “obvious” ideas seem to not apply.

Maybe just give your body time to readjust and then ease back into Keto nice and gently/ slowly and see if there’s less craziness going on?

(icky) #34

Hey Sue, I’ve got a new Dr House idea for you.

Has your thyroid ever been tested specifically for Hashimoto’s thyroiditis or similar complex thyroid issues?

I have normal hypothyroidism and just found out yesterday from my bloodwork that Keto / Low Carb is affecting my thyroid (producing less T3, and too much rT3, according to the doctor).

Anyway, reading up on it in a thyroid forum just now, someone was saying that if you have Hashimotos you’re not meant to have any iodine, and need to avoid salt with added iodine and someone was saying that yeah, everytime he eats chips/ crisps he’d get symptoms like yours, because there’d be iodine in the salt on the crisps.

As I said, just another “Dr House” style thought of “what if…” because I was suprised to learn that low carb can affect the thyroid like that - so even if you didn’t have thyroid issues before, you could have them now…

(icky) #35

Sue, I’m just watching this really great video by Dr Phinney, and there’s a question and answer about low BG during Ketosis starting at around 29 mins/ 30 mins which you might find helpful.

At 31 mins/ 32 mins he even talks about an old experiment of pumping ppl who were fasting full of insulin to see what happens…

(GINA ) #36

Just to be clear about the iodine- only iodized table salt has significant amounts of iodine. Natural salt has trace amounts, but salt like the blue can with the girl with the umbrella has had iodine ADDED in response to people becoming iodine deficient because our soils are depleted. Kind of like how we have “enriched wheat flour” and vitamin D added to milk.

(icky) #37

Yeah, I’m just using the idoine salt as an example.

Sue’s a classic Dr House patient :joy:

I’m sure it’ll end up being Lupus - wasn’t that what they’d always say in the series, when it doubt? “It could be Lupus?”

We’ve kind of gone through all the obvious ideas in this thread an another, so we’re now looking at the less likely candidates and hoping something will ring a bell…

#38

Yup, that and amyloidosis. I loved that show!

(icky) #39

Yeah, so did Sue and I !!! :heart_eyes::heart_eyes::heart_eyes:

I don’t remember the amyloidosis thing?

OMG Sue, what if it’s THAT? :hushed:

I’m off to google it… hahaha :smile:

(icky) #40

Sue, the next thread you do on this, can you call it “Paging all Dr House’s out there - Medical Mystery to be solved” ?? :pray:t3: