The only thing that doesn't make sense to me

#61

Agreed. I’m still learning, but this blog post makes a lot of very strong statements, some of which are universally accepted in the keto world and others that are the opposite. All of which is fine, we know the conventional wisdom isn’t right all the time, but references to back the claims up and show the science would be helpful, otherwise it’s more of the same.

(Robert C) #62

This blog post was written very much from the calories in / calories out point of view. Although mentioned, it does not follow up on the benefits of getting your insulin down and your insulin sensitivity up over the long haul. In the middle of the article it is stated that all that matters is calories - not hormones. Obesity Code refutes that and says that if you only look at calories, you’ll get fatter, as a nation, and we did over the last few decades. On the other hand, if you focus on hormones, you can reverse diabetes (once thought to be a permanent and progressive condition) - which sounds like a pretty powerful intervention to me.

Dr. Jason Fung lays all of this out very nicely in his blog posts and his books - with supporting evidence. I wouldn’t let an unsupported supplement company’s blog post let you become confused on the benefits of keto.

(Chris) #63

Thanks for this

#64

Think of it this way: cutting carbs dramatically and keeping protein moderate re-conditions the metabolism to be able to burn fat more efficiently than most broken modern metabolisms are conditioned to do. In a caloric deficit, the body that is not keto-conditioned will supplement by breaking down muscle to create glucose, its preferred fuel, and burn fat at an impaired rate.

However, once you train your body to turn fatty acids into ketone bodies you start to turn the tide toward preferential fat-fuel burning, thus minimizing muscle breakdown when carbs/glucose are in short supply. Your body regains its natural ability to switch fuel source from primarily glucose to primarily fat when insufficient carb/glucose is on hand. This is a process and will vary in time it takes from person to person. But once that metabolic flexibilty has been firmly re-established, you can switch easily back and forth between these two fuel sources.

BUT – and this is the big consideration – even a body conditioned to burn fat as its preferred fuel due to keto conditioning and low carb intake will use dietary fat and only start burning stored body fat for fuel when there is a deficit on the intake end. (Insufficient calories to fuel your body and its daily activities) Therefore, someone can be creating ketones like crazy or boosting blood ketones with exogenous ketones and if they are are eating more of even “keto-friendly, approved” foods than their body/activity/exercise level burns, they will fail to lose weight.

(Ivy) #65

Yup. EXACTLY the truth, and alot of posts in this forum are about bouncing in and out. So wrong.

(Doug) #66

:smile: Necro. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye: :grin:

(Ivy) #67

I work at the graveyard.

(Doug) #68

Aye, that one over there under the bridge. :wink: :smirk:

(Michael - When reality fails to meet expectations, the problem is not reality.) #69

Here’s another consideration. As one ages the brain on primarily glucose starts running into problems. All the various age related ‘senior moments’ and worse are due mostly to the brain’s deteriorating ability to utilize glucose as it’s energy source or to the accumulation of multiple waste byproducts from using it. Like everything else, of course, there’s a wide range of individual variation. Still, β-hydroxybutyrate and acetoacetate are advantageous fuel for the brain, especially as one ages. In this case, I think more is better.

So, consider Ketone Oblivious