The good and the (slightly) challenging


(David Gardiner) #1

Hi,

Been at this religiously for 6 weeks now, with some interesting observations:

I am male, 5’8”, age 51, 174 lbs to start, addicted to good bread and Chocolate covered ice creams, both parents recently passed away from varying types of dementia.

I buy into the Type 3 diabetes argument and, in particular, insulin resistance in all its forms.many years ago I was part of a cognitive behaviour experiment that involved a euglycaemic clamp, where you had to complete memory tasks at normal glycemic levels and hypoglycaemic levels, interesting by product was that I was borderline Impaired Glucose Tolerant. So, I am motivated.

I also found I was having increased episodes of severe hunger, resulting in large meals, second helpings and, my nemesis, evening grazing.

So, decided to give Keto a go: hack it for 6 months, see how things work out.

Plus points so far: don’t miss ice cream, chocolate or bread, or fruit (the banana trees in the back garden are mainly for shade now)

Exercise is becoming more fun, seem to have lots of energy, running and cycling further. Actually, being honest, getting the bike out again after some time of not cycling. Like a year.

Eating Keto is straightforward at home, loving being a home chef again. Wife was getting stressed about whether I could eat a regular Xmas meal, but we worked that out, did a trial run for her, Who knew seafood with sriracha sauce, mayo and lemon could taste as good as it does? (50:50 on the sriracha and Mayo)

No afternoon tiredness

Stable mood, better memory (subjective, I know)

No hunger pangs like before.

Drinking water by the litre, horsing through magnesium powder and Lo-salt.

Left the Keto diary behind as I am in the groove around foods.

Evening grazing: went to Jason Fungs website: he said break the habit or you won’t lose weight, so I made the rule: nothing after 7pm except water. Simples, but hard to break the habit.

Moving to one or two meals a day, depending on exercise, minimal weight loss but definite body changes, so all good.

The challenging stuff:

Neon urine from multivitamin tablets: pretty weird

No weight loss in 5 weeks, such is life, actually put on a bit, so adjusted my total calories down on the basis that I was probably lying to myself about how active I was.

Each time I go away for work, or have make eating choices outside the home, I put on a kilo. Every time…takes a week to come off.

How much Keto is too much? On a breathalyser, I read between 0.1 and 0.15, fairly purple on Keto Stix.

Jeez, when is this belly fat going to go? Think I am losing inches everywhere else, so hoping to see some glimmers of hope soon (ish)

Overall, a good experience so far, definitely sustainable, but had to dial down my expectations of what it would deliver around belly fat, as everyone is different. But the other wins make it very worthwhile.

Happy Christmas (or holidays) to you all, got a lot of really good and reassuring info out of these forums.

David, Queensland


(mole person) #3

A lot of people don’t lose weight in the first six weeks, it takes that long to become fat adapted. Until this point, all you should be worrying about is keeping carbs below 20 grams.

So now you are probably fat adapted and the intensity of your hunger should be starting to lessen. This is when the weight loss really begins but you don’t have a lot to lose so you may need some tweaking right off the bat.

Can you tell us what you eat and drink in a day? Do you track your macros? When and how frequently you eat?


#4

It sounds like you’re right on track!
Sometimes the last place a person will lose weight is the last place they put it on. Maybe just me!!
Your scenario sounds a lot like my eating pattern and habits. For me the place I want to see my fat go the most, is off my hips, but it’s always the very last place.
Your’e noticing loss in other places, that’s a WIN!
You’re pretty low in weight for your height and being a man. Meaning you’re probably pretty close to your goal correct?
It takes a little longer when you have less body fat to loose.
I think you cutting back on some of the calories was a good idea and I love the thought of not eating after 7 !
I was/ sometimes still am… a night eater as well.
I’m gonna work on that myself. Let us know how it goes, and Happy Christmas to you too! :chipmunk:
:evergreen_tree:


(Consensus is Politics) #5

The nu-salt (or is it no-salt?) is potassium. I use it maybe once a month now. I eat several avocados a week, and that does me just fine. Too much potassium can be deadly. I beleive it can cause a heart attack. Better safe than sorry. Keep up on good old sodium chloride. Just salt.

How many carbs are you getting? Be sure to keep them lower than 20 grams a day. Or, you can do like I did, I aimed for zero carbs a day, and maybe get a tiny amount from eggs or pickled jalapeños. Basically, I don’t eat any actual foods that contain measurable amounts of carbs, except maybe eggs.

When I started I had just been diagnosed as Type 2 diabetes, with a BG reading of 594. Weighed in at 245 pounds. 14 DAYS later I had lost 40 pounds. A few months later dropped another 10 pounds to 195. Held there for about a year now. Just starting to see it go down slowly again. At about 190 now.

Doing zero carb, one meal a day, only snacks are pork rinds or pepperoni slices, and try to keep all food intake including snacks in the same 4 hour window.

Good luck. Enjoy the feeling of control if nothing else.

Keto Vitae!


(Kim) #6

I drink chicken broth after the meal window closes if i am wanting flavor. It helps three fold. Gives a flavor, something warm and relaxing and helps with the electrolytes.

Glad to hear you are doing so well =)


(David Gardiner) #7

Hi,

I have been using the total Keto diet app, been right on the money around my macros, after an initial week of dialling it in. I am eating no snacks, lots of Avo’s, cheese, home made recipes like sausage bites, aubergine lassgnes, cauliflower bakes etc. I have the odd keto coffee if I am running short on time in the mornings.

Wouldn’t you know it, this morning I check weight and…for first time in 3 years I drop to below 12 stone, target 11 stone 6, 160lbs.

So, I am keeping calm and ketoing on.

The keto ade thing came from the keto in a nutshell piece: replace normal salt with Morton’s, 50% potassium. It’s summer out here, so sweat loss is hard to avoid…it’s sub-tropical.

I suspected it would take a good while for me to become fat adapted, just because of all the “insulin related” symptoms I was having,


(David Gardiner) #8

I should also say that I get allergic rhinitis big time. Itchy streaming eyes, nasal drip, frequent sneezing bouts. I start keto and it goes, just 100% disappeared, no symptoms whatsoever. Awesome! Long may that continue.

Despite having done calorie restriction, high protein low carbs before on numerous occasions over 20 years, I have never got to below 166, so the goal of losing 10% body weight at 50 plus is quite daunting for me, although I read about some flat out amazing journeys that people are on, from which I take inspiration.

Everybody’s struggle is real. Keto just adds a little spark of optimism, because the thing I have always found challenging were the evening hunger and general hunger pangs during the day, whereas this is much more sustainable. The level of science available across the forums and sensible advice is invaluable.

I will share one easy recipe: Queenslanders love smashed Avo, so shake it up a bit with an Avo, squeezed fresh lemon, 10 black olives, 3 cherry tomatoes and an anchovy, stick it in the processor, add a little olive oil or lemon olive oil, and you have a tasty side for the omelette, or sausages. For lunch, just add some tuna, mackerel or salmon.


(David Gardiner) #9

Hi!

Liking the idea of pickled jalapeños…going to stick with magnesium and lime or lemon for electrolyte in the meantime.

David


(Consensus is Politics) #10

10%? I lost 40 pounds in two weeks and didn’t do the math like that. It was pointed out by someone here that I lost 18% of my body weight! That’s nearly 1/5th of my total weight!!!

Something that really drives home how much that was is when I buy my dogs food from the feed store. It’s a 50 pound bag. One day while toting it out of the trunk of the car the weight on the bag caught my eye. As I was walking up to the house it hit me. “I can’t imagine carrying this bag around all day! But pre-keto I did exactly that for several years :astonished:


(David Gardiner) #11

Wow! That is a lot of weight, good on you!