Taking a magnesium supplement every evening took my own initial “edge” off. After a week of truly being ketogenic I found I wasn’t sleeping well and i felt super high energy which should be great but it was kind of alarming. Once my body got used to the magnesium i leveled out and went back to my happy 8 hours of sleep and regular braining.
Hope you do whatever is best for your own health and goals. This is a great place to voice your concerns as there are a lot of “old timers” who can help. 
It is a shame you didn’t find Keto a good fit. But that’s the way it goes. The thing about keto , as much as I personally love it, is it can’t fix everything. Red hoax and blue self delusion flags should pop up everywhere when somethimg is touted to cure everything. There is no magic here, just something that seems to work very well for ever larger remarkably diverse number of people. Neither, the issues a keto diet can effectively address, nor have its limits yet to be completely determined or fully explored. So it’s not surprising when someone finds it a bad fit.
Don’t let others unduly influence your choices or decisions. I respect your choices and wish you the best When anything works as well as keto has for me, it is not difficult to understand why people can get a bit evangelical about it. Just accept their encouragement to “keto on” as the personal heartfelt advice it is intended to be. Either way, whatever nutritional path you take, i hope you continue to visit and contribute to the forums.
Maybe you should just be concerned with dropping sugar first then work your way through doing without the super high GI foods? We all have a “sweet spot” of how many carbs we can eat without issues. Some it is the keto 20, others can go to 150 or higher. Just depends on how you respond to the carbs. Maybe lchf is better for you than Keto is? I’m in maintenance and I can do around 50 carbs without problems others have to stay much lower or can go higher. I do fasting as well and I consider my diet to be nutrition keto now, but I do eat stricter keto (20g carb) on many days of the month.
I stopped logging my food after doing for years when I went keto last year. I think it is more important to pay attention to how your body reacts to the foods than logging them. YMMV.
Do what you have to do, love to see you stick around, but if you need to drop out, all the best on your journey.
Your quitting before you’ve even started. You owe yourself more than that. Its much more work to be a fat phobic calorie counter any day of the week than eating keto.
Some to hear Keto is not for you after a week. I found that with so many apps to monitor what you are eating, it help me make better choices and stop me from thinking I was eating right especially carbs and protein.
I don’t know how many diets you have been on but for me Keto is going to be my new lifestyle as it can be adjusted to suit my needs, I am on the road a lot for work and I can now intermittently fast 16/8 or I can pull up and have bacon and eggs at a cafe or service station.
Can’t wait to see my blood work. I know my blood pressure has come back to normal 116/78.
From I have read you and I have a lot of support from the forums participants.
I wish you well, what ever you decide. Cheers mate.
I used to be a carb junkie too. I’d put away big bags of M&Ms, multiple bags of chips, cases of Mt Dew. This went on for years. Then by chance, a blood test for something non related shows me with a BG level of 594 ( deaths door knocking loudly) but I didn’t feel any different. HBa1c 11.7% meant I had an Avg BG reading over 3 months of 300! That’s enough to get admitted in the hospital.
I went Keto to fix my deranged metabolism. You’ve taken the RED pill. You know the truth. The cake is a lie. Just keep it in mind as you begin to put things together later on.
Don’t stress. Don’t try to make everything perfect. As long as carbs are low, the rest kinda falls into place. Basically just swap out carbs with fat. Don’t worry so much about, can I really eat this? I was doing that too. A lot of needless stress. Just get some basic Keto groceries. It isn’t gonna hurt you to eat the same meal a few days in a row while you figure out what specialty items you want to add.
I usually have 3 to 5 packs of bacon in my fridge. 5 pounds of hamburger. Several quarts of heavy whipping cream. Several bricks of grass fed butter ( found kerrygold on sale the other day and bought a few). I’m much more relaxed about it now. I NEED to do it because of diabetes. You can take your time and enjoy it. Just remember, the weight loss part IS ALL ABOUT INSULIN. Keep that in mind.
Take care.
And remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
Actually Robert you hit the nail on the head. That is what i meant earlier when i said i keep worrying about what i should eat. I keep thinking i need to be perfect with the Macros otherwise i will be doing this all for nothing, and its kind of been ruining it for me. Eating the same meal day in and day out is ME to a tea. Actually, the past 6 or so days since i have been on this Keto diet its been a nice change from meat and potato, meat and pasta etc etc.
Breakfast now i eat scrambled eggs with chicken or pork, or beef. No lunch at all as im never hungry during the day, and for dinner id have some meat and veggies, ie beans and broccoli swimming in butter…lol. I dont really snack, but when i do i have string cheese, some walnuts and pork rinds on hand. Who knew they are not that bad for you?. I drink probably 90-120 fl oz of water during the day and pee like a racehorse.
I am going to give it one more shot, but like i said earlier, if im still having issues sleeping then i may need to knock it on the head. I should add that i typically eat dinner at 9pm and have my first meal of the day around 2-3pm. My body clock is all messed up still. I guess some kind of intermittent fasting? Thanks for the advice and i will keep you all posted if that is OK by you guys and gals?
btw i should add that i have never had issues with blood works. Im just probably 20-30 lbs over weight but i do carry it well as i dont look big.
I think 6 days is really early to consider tapping out. There’s no need to follow all the strictest keto advice: you could always do just low carb like I did. I was still eating fruit, just avoiding sugar and starches, and in 10 weeks I lost over 20 pounds. And I wasn’t that big to begin with. Felt amazing.
I’d give it a few weeks, and stop freaking out about all the varying advice. Simple rules: no sugar, no starches. This PDF is what I followed: it’s the appendix from Gary Taubes’s “Why We Get Fat.” Maybe it’ll help you to sort through all the conflicting advice and the stress of it all.
Cheers gabe, i will look info that document. BTW you mentioned you still eat fruit but avoid sugar? I was under the impression fruit has sugar no? I read in tons of places that fruit was a no no on this diet.
I avoid fruit now. But 18 months ago, when I started low carb high fat eating, I was not interested in ketosis really. My view, after reading Taubes’s book, was that reducing sugars and starches was good. I used to eat so much crap that cutting all of that out, while leaving the fruit, was more than enough. Those 3 months were the biggest sheer weight loss I experienced.
You don’t have to be holier than the pope to cut your carb intake. Sure, I think there are benefits to ketosis, but simply cutting sugars (especially in processed foods) and starches got great results for me.
So sure, I wasn’t keeping 100% to “The Diet” at the beginning. Do what you feel comfortable doing. I’m quite sure that if your diet sucked to begin with that you’ll see benefits simply by going 80% or 90% of the way. Plenty of studies have shown that low carb diets that aren’t even close to ketogenic are highly beneficial.
To be honest, it sounds like you’re overanalyzing. Eat veggies and meat and fish and healthy fats to satiety. That’s basically the lifestyle. Read the PDF. It’s not hard, and you won’t feel deprived.
Having said that: Dr Peter Attia has frequently made the point that he takes some patients off ketogenic diets. It isn’t right for some people. Their bloods might go the wrong way, or they feel crap on it. And that’s fine: the evidence we so far have doesn’t show that it’s right for everyone. It just shows that it has a beneficial effect on large portions of sample populations. Your Mileage May Vary is the key here, as with anything.
And frankly, don’t take any of what I or anyone here says as medical advice. It’s just our experience. The science is embryonic at this point. It’s all self-experimentation at this point until we have lots more randomized controlled trials. Consult a doctor, is my official advice to you.
If tracking/strict keto isn’t working for you why not try lazy keto (no tracking, which is what I did/do), or just lower carb? e.g. you know candy is bad so cut that. Bread isn’t great so cut/limit. Crank down carbs starting with the “worst” until you find something that makes you feel great and is sustainable.
Btw I also felt terrible at week 1. It took me about 3 weeks to adapt and after that it was smooth sailing.
Above all you should pick whats best for you, but there is an adaption period.
I hope you find a lifestyle that’s best for you!
Agreed. I never tracked, and probably never will. It’s a lifestyle, not a goddamn Weight Watchers points system. I pity those fools! 
I have had a ton of great info in this thread. I feel that i would be doing you all a disservice if i didn’t continue and see if things improve. The food part i think i have down. I guess i just need to give it time until my body adjusts, and then hope the sleepiness comes soon after. Thank You to everyone who contributed above. This place seems very friendly and welcoming. Unlike a lot of places on the www.
I found this way of eating to be extremely easy to adapt to. Once you get used to it, it gets even easier.
@gabe, so we are wrong if want to be disciplined at the start, to get the Keto bases right. When you been on yo yo diets and you, get it wrong and the the weight comes back and your health suffers. We become fearful of failure.
There are so many way to tackle Keto and we can succeed, in our own way.
I don’t think “wrong” is the right word, but one of the great things about this WOE is that you don’t need to do it. Sure, at first while your adapting you gotta pay attention but mainly to carbs/sugars. But past that once you shake the sugar addiction needlessly dragging in the old mentality of calorie counting and bringing your calculator to meals is crazy. I understand some people have an OCD with it and don’t realize that they have a numbers obsession, and others just mentally can’t shake the idea that you don’t need to do it. But allowing your BODY to be that gauge of when to eat, when to stop is one of the founding ideas of this plan. This has become more and more prevalent the last couple years in the keto world from what I see, so many people starting this that doing keto the traditional way has started to be referred to as “lazy” keto, uhhhh, nope, that’s just keto. I’m for people doing whatever works for them in any case, BUT I’m also not for taking something simple and complicating it. To be fair, I understand people doing in the troubleshooting / process of elimination type stuff, I’ve done that myself.