Sugar Addiction Doesn't Exist

(Ellen) #21

^^ This, how do they always seem to know???

(Jenny) #22

I can go months with alcohol in the house and never touch it. my husband is addicted to alcohol. He can go months with sweets in the house, and never touch it. I believe my desire to sugar is close enough to addiction that my most successful personal path to my goals is to treat it as such. I can too almost always let the thoughts of those sweets go… on keto and fasting. but without it, no. Even with my keto and fasting tools, there are days I struggle, but it’s so so so so much better. I feel as though hubby and I have the same issue. our brains just want 2 different currencies.

(Georgia) #23

Same here. I remember reading somewhere that sugar lights up the same brain receptors as drugs (maybe cocaine or heroin). If sweets are available, I fight to not consume any. I try to limit the ketofied versions of sweets, because they always seem to be a trigger food.

(Jane) #24

The paper she references at the bottom of her “opinions” cites 127 studies to back up their claims.

I wonder how many received funding from the sugar industry or Big Food? Since the paper itself did no studies of their own they can claim no funding, so you’d have to track down the 127 referenced studies to find out and even then their funding may not be disclosed.

Regardless, it is obvious that sugar actis like a drug to some people and not sure what the motivation is to declare otherwise with published studies.

(Running from stupidity) #25

And even if the funding is disclosed, you’d have to read the actual linked paper to see if it says what the author of the paper you’re linking FROM says it says.

There was paper linked here a few weeks ago, and I checked the first couple of links, and they very clearly did NOT say what the author of the paper posted here said they did. It was either straight up lying, or a complete and utter misunderstanding of basic English. But who checks links when you’re heavily invested in being a vegan, and someone writes that meat and low carb will kill you? You agree and clap along, nodding your head enthusiastically because the thing you’re reading has ever-so-many scientific references that “support” it.

(Bacon is a many-splendoured thing) #26

We can do something about that . . . :grin:

#27

Sugar/Carbs are highly addictive, I don’t care what anyone has to say on the subject. The very fact it makes you high, and then low requiring more to get you high again, tells me its addictive.

(Bacon is a many-splendoured thing) #28

That and cuteness seem to be their chief superpowers. My beautiful sweet Elizabeth, on of my very first rats, was an inveterate chewer. There were many occasions when I would cheerfully have wrung her neck, if she hadn’t been so adorable. I was just reflecting on how many of the holes in my fleece comforter were her doing, all those years ago.

(Bacon is a many-splendoured thing) #29

Gary Taubes says in one of his lectures that the big question among the experts is whether sugar is a drug, or just acts like one. Seems to me that if it acts like a drug, then it is a drug. But then, I’m no expert. :grin:

(Running from stupidity) #30

Or even if that doesn’t make it ACTUALLY a drug, IS IT A DISTINCTION WITHOUT A DIFFERENCE? DOES IT MATTER? Who cares what we call it if it does the same thing?

(Ellen) #31

That’s true, my boy Gorbash could be an absolute git at times but could never stay mad at him, even when he chewed up all 3 of Mum’s xmas presents!

(Running from stupidity) #32

I’m liking this rat a LOT.

(Ellen) #33

Loved him; Mum not so much.

(Running from stupidity) #34

Any dirty rat that is a foot-soldier in the war on Christmas is a comrade of mine!

(Doug) #35

:clap: Very interesting topic. I go days or weeks without alcohol, but shudder at the thought of really giving it up or having a doctor tell me I had to. Cigarettes - never felt any compulsion/addiction, but I can see how addictive they are for many people. I dearly love lighting up a cigarette, though pretty quickly smoking makes me feel crappy, and weeks and months go by without doing it.

Sugar - in the last month before my doctor said I was full-fledged Type 2 diabetic, I bought two pies at a grocery store one day, peach and cherry, and ate them both that evening. And yet I would have never said I was really a ‘sugar addict.’ I’ve always just loved excess.

(Bunny) #36

Lol… just looking at the beginning of that paragraph “five reasons your addicted to sugar” I would also add:

Sugar would not be so bad if it were not missing its natural vital micro-nutrients, minerals and now rare trace elements, but all there is to eat is the super-bleached refined cane sugar mixed with beet sugar on a global scale…

You don’t want to over-fuel your mitochondria and chromosomes with it either because you are made of sugar (ribonucleic acid), yes it is an ‘ACID’ and would that not be for lack of a better analogy; ‘cannibalism’ or eating the flesh of your own species?..

What does acid do? It dissolves things!

Footnotes:

[1] “… Each cell contains hundreds to thousands of mitochondria, which are located in the fluid that surrounds the nucleus (the cytoplasm). Although most DNA is packaged in chromosomes within the nucleus, mitochondria also have a small amount of their own DNA. This genetic material is known as mitochondrial DNA or mtDNA. …” …More

[2] “…One of the primary differences between DNA and RNA is that RNA has a specific sugar that DNA does not. RNA has the sugar ribose in it. By contrast, DNA has the sugar deoxyribose. This is why RNA is called Ribonucleic Acid. What sugar is found in RNA and DNA: •Ribose (5-carbon sugar) •Deoxyribose (5-carbon sugar) What Is Ribose? Ribose is referred to as a pentose monosaccharide, a simple sugar. It’s a carbohydrate, and it is composed of five carbon atoms. Unlike other monosaccharides, such as glucose, ribose isn’t oxidized when energy for cellular metabolism is required. Instead, ribose plays a critical role in the formation of molecules which transfer energy between parts of a cell. Ribose performs a variety of functions in addition to enabling the transference of energy. One of the ribose’s key functions is that it acts as the base for the genetic tool that makes proteins out of genes. It also serves as part of the backbone of chromosomes. …” …More

[3] “… The most common monosaccharides provided by foods are glucose, fructose and galactose (BREAD; GRAINS). Sweet foods such as honey and cane sugar are rich in monosaccharides, but a wide variety of other foods, such as dairy products, beans and fruit, also contain these simple sugars. …” …More

[4] “… Monosaccharides do not require intestinal digestion prior to absorption. Salivary a-amylase and pancreatic a-amylase are similar enzymes. Members of the amylase family of enzymes are found in many tissues and organs of the body, however the highest concentrations are in the salivary glands and pancreas. Disaccharides cannot be absorbed (intact) by the intestine. Intestinal glucose and galactose absorption is Na±dependent, yet insulin-independent. Intestinal fructose absorption is normally slower than glucose and galactose absorption. Most intestinal glucose absorption is associated with aerobic energy expenditure. A b-glucosidase and a b-galactosidase are present in the brush border of the small intestine, which hydrolyze glucose and galactose residues from glucocerebrosides and galactocerebrosides. …” …More

#37

Pretty website but SAD Information.

Before keto I stumbled into a similar yeah, blah, oh, whatever style of eating she prescribes. It doesn’t even have a name. How about the “All Is Blah Diet”. 20 years of it. No thanks.

Science? There are thousands of papers about the evils of modern wheat and sugar… To not walk away. Run.

I hate being so frank and blunt but billions of people are suffering due to garbage food advice…

(Mike Trick) #38

Agree, sugar addiction is only in our heads. Our brain feels incredible when we eat something sweet and he gives to the taste buds that we want more and more. That is why people think that this is an addiction, but in the fact, it is not. You know being addicted is not so cool. One of my friends was drug-addicted and it was a really hard period. We tried to help him but the only help that really influenced him was the specialists from here lifeline.org.uk. To be honest they were our last hope and they did an incredible job. So believe me I know what means addiction and sugar is not that case.

#39

So you’re ignoring the fact that sugar causes the same dopamine response that illicit drug use does? That’s not opinion it’s medical fact.

What do you know? You just said your friend was the one that was drug addicted. What were you addicted to? I’ve been on both sides of this and sugar is ABSOLUTELY just as addictive as any other drug that flood you with dopamine. The drug isn’t what you’re addicted to, it’s the response. You clearly have never dealt with addiction first hand. That’s great you helped your friend but doesn’t qualify you to understand what it’s like either.

(Bob M) #40

My wife thought it would be fun to go to get ice cream in the middle of the day, to celebrate our kids going back to school. So, we did that.

I was unnaturally FAMISHED not long after eating that ice cream. I mean, incredibly hungry to the point where I overate at dinner.

And I remember being like this all the time before I went low carb - always wanting more to eat, constantly hungry.

Even now, going on 7 years later, I still overeat if I eat anything sweet.