Soy beaverage as a protein source?

(Hugh Walter Jennings) #1

How does everyone here feel about soy beverage as a protein source ? I bought Trader Joe’s organic Soy Beaverage. Only ingredients are soy and water. I also looked into it and it seems to be made in California.

I checked my blood glucose before and an hour after and 8 ozs only raised my blood glucose about 20%. It’s said to digest in 2-3 hours (per AI search result)

9 grams protein and 4-5 grams net carbs per 8 ozs.

(Edith) #2

Anything can be considered keto/low carb if ingested in the right quantity. What matters the most is your total carbohydrate intake over the course of the day.

Now with that being said, drinking calories for many people doesn’t seem to have the same effect on satiety or the duration of satiety as foods consumed by chewing, but everyone is different. If it works for you, there is nothing wrong with it.

As a protein source, if you want to lean towards more vegetarian fare, soy is fine. Its protein absorbability is almost equivalent to that of animal protein, although that is true for processed soy, not in its raw form.

(Cathy) #3

I agree that for many people, drinking food isn’t ideal. There are much better and satisfying ketogenic foods.

Personally, I avoid liquid meals and soy so if you are asking, I would give it a no.

#4

If you’re drinking it because you like Soy “milk” as milk replacement, that’s fine, although 100 cals that you’re only getting 9g of protein is pretty far behind a protein shake that you’d get around 25g for only 30 cals more.

(Hugh Walter Jennings) #5

Thanks all for your thoughts.

I just plan on using it for an extra protein source. With a meal, or post exercise source of protein that’s somewhat fast digestion.

I like the taste of it. Yesterday I started adding a 3 grams of l-citrulline in 8 ozs of it and follow that with 6-8 ozs of water.

I get most of my protein from fatty fish, eggs, nuts, edamame or black bean pasta, and peanut butter.

(B Creighton) #6

I used to love Vitasoy milk made with maltitol, but haven’t drank it in years. Now I use hemp milk for my protein smoothies. If I sweeten it with stevia, I really like the taste, but it is somewhat expensive. I just have suspicions about soy and cancers - unless it is fermented properly.

(BuckRimfire) #7

Are you using the Explore Cuisine brand? I’ve bought that a few times to hold up a serving of Alfredo sauce. I’d rate it “not terribly disappointing out of ten.”

(Hugh Walter Jennings) #8

Yes, Explore is the brand. I just use EVOO with it, as well as garlic powder and pepper.

It was a big part of my diet while I was losing weight. I still eat it, but only 4 servings pew week now.

(Harriet) #9

I was concerned about my husband’s protein intake. He generally eats one large meal a day and one smaller meal or a couple snacks. I got him to start taking about one ounce of whey protein concentrate in the morning (1 oz has about 110 calories, 20 g/protein and 2.6 carbs). He absolutely felt a positive improvement in overall health (better endurance, “stronger”). I’m not a fan of soy for a lot of reasons but in his case in particular, I wouldn’t want him to use it due to the phytoestrogenic effects of soy (he’s 72 and already on HRT).

Personally I think that 4 carbs for just 9 g/protein is kind of high.

(Central Florida Bob ) #10

How is the amino acid profile of soy? Does it have all the essential amino acids?

AFAIK, it’s pretty common for plant sources to be incomplete or bad ratios.

(Hugh Walter Jennings) #11

Per AI search results

  • Complete Protein Source: Soy milk provides all nine essential amino acids (histidine, isoleucine, leucine, lysine, methionine, phenylalanine, threonine, tryptophan, and valine).
(Central Florida Bob ) #12

Thanks!

(Mike W.) #13

Are you a male or a female? As a male with low T already, I avoid soy at all costs. We generally don’t need more estrogen.

(Hugh Walter Jennings) #14

Well, I stand when I pee.

I don’t worry about it
Lots of studies indicate it’s not a problem.

(Bob M) #15

I would test it for blood sugar level. Glucose Goddess has a test of oat “milk” and regular milk, and oat milk is way worse for her blood sugar. I didn’t see a test for soy milk, though.

I’d have to do more research about how good of a protein source soy milk is. Peter Ballerstedt had shown a technique where they used pigs to rate protein. I’d like to see soy milk on that scale, or a comparison of amino acid content versus other “milks”.

(Hugh Walter Jennings) #16

Soy drinks vary on what’s added. The one I use lists soy and water as the only two ingredients.

8 ozs will raise my blood glucose by up to 10 points but it’s short lived. Iirc when I last checked my before number was 78 and an hour after the 8 ozs of soy in an empty stomach was 88.