Someone... what's the secret to breaking a fast?


#21

Yes it is an interesting idea. I would hazard a guess that they would be unlikely to screw with many people’s gut either. It’s a solid recommendation but I am sure there is someone out there who it will not work for! I actually use them a lot when I am working in the summer in my water after reading an article about how it was great for Aztec and Mayan runners or some such and keeping them hydrated for longer. Obviously I naturally compare myself to such groups so gave it a try :smiley: Seriously though, I do find it helps if I am working outside on especially hot days.


(Jane) #22

I’ve had that issue a couple of times and since I usually fast when I am working out of town on business then when I break it is determined by when I will be traveling home.

As in… not to be stuck in a long car drive or airplane ride and can’t stay out of the bathroom.

I prefer to break with bacon and eggs and usually a half portion for my first meal.


(Allie) #23

This would cripple me.


(John) #24

Interesting. The couple of times I fasted for 24-30 hours, I just ate a normal meal. All I had done was to skip 2 meals in a row so it wasn’t that dramatic to my body.

One of those, I had eaten breakfast on a Friday, skipped lunch and dinner (not planned, just busy) and the following Saturday had my normal breakfast (eggs and bacon I think) about 1pm. No problems, and I ate a normal dinner. I probably had a cup of black coffee and a glass of lightly lemon-infused water in the morning prior to making late breakfast.

The second time, I had dinner the previous night, then had to fly on a business trip the next day so I skipped breakfast and lunch, and didn’t eat until I was at the destination. As I remember it was good sized dinner at a restaurant of salad, salmon, and broccoli.


(Bunny) #25

I was looking at the word “secret” and I suppose the ancient way of extended religious fasting did not entail glucose intolerances, and to further historical observations on various types of fasting if a person has thyroid issues before going on a strict ketogenic diet (fast mimicking diet) Dr. Jockers explains when to cycle in and out of ketosis (blueberry juice) which is very similar to coming off a an extended fast as in the historical context I’m discussing and as Daisy pointed out “nobody can tell one person how to break a fast” I do apologize for the misunderstanding and since we are on the subject of fasting I would like to point out the most important things to know about The #1 rule of fasting by Dr. Fung (an excellent read)!

Movie Dr. Fung recommends watching:

Fasting, circadian rhythms, and time restricted feeding in healthy lifespan - Valter D. Longo and Satchidananda Panda


(Dee) #26

I think it may be simply a matter of what you’re eating.
Perhaps try eating just meat, or a soup…


(Cailyn Mc Cauley) #27

Love reading everyone’s advice and learned a few new tips!

I never have any sort of digestive issues with keto. I’m severely hypothyroid and am not sure if that is the reason.

I wonder if you’re fasting for too short of a period of time and too regularly. My thoughts are to listen to your body, which is clearly disagreeing with you.

I don’t see anyone mention feasting cycling? I feast on extra fat the 24 hours before my fast. I then fast 48 hours minimum (keto aid only.) and up to 76 hours (making sure I pass the HGH high point before eating.

I only do this fast when my body tells me, it seems about 4-6 week intervals.

I stopped the 20-4 IF as it aggravated my metabolism (deranged from hypothyroidism.) I do better on the 16-8 and always with a breakfast now.

Best of luck in your journey! Looking forward to hearing what you discover works for you!

~Class of 2017
KCKO


(Bob M) #28

The last time I did a 4.5 day fast, I had some bone broth and two pickled eggs. I then ate a more normal meal about an hour or so later (which for me means all meat).

That was the best breaking of a fast I’ve had. However, I’ve been doing this about 3.5 years, and it’s been slowly getting better over time anyway.

For 36 hours or less fasts, I usually have a normal (most times, quite large) meal.


(Heather Meyer) #29

Gas/Bloating/Distended belly
DIARREAH! Like 20 minutes after eating
Then more gas to the point where i feel like a stuffed turkey. And if i eat somthing else after…it goes in one end and out the other.

So while sound advice clearly says “Dont worry about eating your next meal…just eat normally”…

Its not ACTUALLY the case… My normal meal that i can normally eat any other non-fasting day is making me feel quite sick on fasting days!
Because im having such an upsrt stomach when going back to eating… it means i dont get more then one small in and it only amounts to 500 ish calories.


(Ryan P) #30

This is a good point. Without a gallbladder, you could try something like this enzyme with your meal(s).


(Paul Butler) #31

I always had loose bowels after my 24-46hr fasts.
I’ve started breaking fast with bone broth and that has stopped the issue.


(Heather Meyer) #32

yes… i take somthing by the NOW brand called
Super Enzymes…its a multi enzyme capsule
I also take 60 billion probiotic


(Heather Meyer) #33

the carb content is low… 3 net carbs?
I usually have 1 large egg fried between 2 pieces of homemade keto almond bread(which = 2 net)
and mayo(1 tsp)

I tried breaking a fast with 1 egg…didnt work
I tried breaking fast with pork rind nachos
(cheese, pork rinds, 0.5 ounces green onion diced, 70 grams diced red tomato)
Got through half and then it all exited multiple times…


(Heather Meyer) #34

I also get a strange “flush”. After i eat my first break-fast meal or snack… i get super flushed.
My whole face literally looks sunburned and its hot. It stays that way for close to 45 minutes after eating


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#36

It was more the potential reaction to the carbs rather than the amount I was thinking of. I’m not saying I am right though :slight_smile: rather just my initial thought.

Keep trying different things. I am sure you will find your “thing” :slight_smile:


(Jane) #37

My suggestion would be to wait another month before you try fasting again to see if your body has become better adjusted to this WOE. Fasting shouldn’t cause this much discomfort.


(Doug) #38

I would bet that it does, Heather. No gallbladder here, either, and once I broke a fast by eating a good bit of butter. Didn’t set out to break a fast that way, just really felt like eating so started whittling away on a block of the stuff. This ended nearly as badly as one can imagine. The best I can say is that at least I was not out in public, and that nobody knew about it.

You’re already taking the enzyme supplement that is partially aimed at low bile levels. Too bad that an egg doesn’t work for you - there’s a keto food without too much fat in one of them. Have to think that ‘taking it easy’ is advisable, but you’re already doing that. Just keep trying different things…?


(Heather Meyer) #39

Yah its really odd…

I have to take a digestive enzyme to help me digest my food… BUT at the same time i am on a perscription Proton Pump Inhibitor(Acid Reducer) from the Doctor because i end up with gastritis often if i dont.

So one is for not enough acid and the other is for too much acid??? Makes me wonder which one i actually need…


(Doug) #40

Not a doctor (of course) here, Heather, but taking an acid reducer and fasting - which reduces stomach acid secretion already - makes me lean hard toward it being low stomach acid when breaking a fast that is causing you nausea, etc. Low stomach acid means incomplete digestion and for nausea to result is a known and typical thing. Still just a guess on my part…

Stomach acid secretion rises in response to eating, but it also has a daily pattern - lower in the morning and higher in the evening for most of us. Don’t know if this would make a difference to you or not.

I don’t mean to go against your doctor or what you’ve settled on thus far - but while eating keto and fasting, have you tried not taking the enzyme supplement and/or the proton pump inhibitor? If you’re gonna get gastritis without the prescription medicine, even while fasting, then I guess you have to have it. Yet if fasting is already lowering your stomach acid…

Taking stuff to help with the effects of having no gallbladder - I’ve seen where it helps some people, does nothing for some people, and where it has made things worse for some people. Truly just my opinion here - I’d be tempted to cut everything out, just have water and perhaps some salt while fasting, and see what happens.