Social Eating and IF

fasting
satiety

(Eric - The patient needs to be patient!) #1

Sorry for the long post.

Full keto (<20g) since June 17. Prior 3 years lite keto (<50g).

Lost at least 14 scale pounds since June and body shape is changing in a positive direction. May have lost more fat weight since I have also increased strength training for upper and lower body.

At 64 I can now see some definition in my neck, shoulders and upper body. I have a goal to replace my man boobs with pecs. Some definition starting. Yeah. Lower body is tight and muscular.

I’ve have had an appetite for as long as I can remember. Like all the time. So I’ve been working on time-restricted feeding and IF 18/6 or so. I have days where I can eat to satiety and not snack. So some progress towards controlling my appetite. Other days not some much yet. But general progress is in that direction.

Some weeks I do one 18/6 other weeks I can do 4 or 5 in a row.

I go to bed between 8:30 and 9:30 since the wife and I go to the gym at 5 am. I eat dinner some nights as late as 7 pm because of work schedules. And last night we went to an outdoor concert and ate at 8 from a cooler. Seared salmon cream cheese dip with celery and some olives. Yummy.

Social eating is important to my family. I have grown kids but one lives with us and we try to eat dinner together on the nights she is not working. BTW She is full keto since July 4 and it has been very beneficial for her. She goes to bed at 1 am.

I will see my PCP in late September and then start experimenting with EF after that.

For those of you that do IF or EF, how do you deal with the social aspect of eating dinner?

Has anyone shifted to big breakfast and either no other meals (OMAD) or a liter lunch no dinner and how has it affected your satiety and NSV and Scale Victories? I’m aware that the two dudes talk about not eating for many hours before bed.

Thanks in advance for your advice.


(KCKO, KCFO 🥥) #2

My IFing tends to be some coffee with HWC for early morning, then a large salad with protein for lunch, if I want something with dark chocolate or even keto bread of any kind, I find it works out best to have that with the lunch. For dinner it is usually protein with a veggie side. My snacks tend to be cheese crisps, thin hard salami slices, or nuts. Usually between lunch and dinner but sometimes a little after dinner.

We are all so different, best to try a pattern for a couple of weeks and see how it works for you.

All the best sorting it out.


#3

I do what Dr. Jason Fung recommends - fit fasting into around life and social situations. Its meant to be flexible and convenient. So if I have an event coming up - I fast before and after - and join in as scheduled. But I do try and keep to the keto friendly foods. Initially it can make you feel self conscious as you load up on meat and veg but I find as long as you have something on your plate - most people don’t give you any mind. When the event is over be it a special occassion or dinner - then get right back to whatever fasting plan you’re on. For EF, I look on the calendar and make sure there is nothing coming up that I don’t want to miss and plan accordingly. True, some advance planning may be required, but that is key for a lot of us whether we are feasting or fasting to make sure we’re not caught off guard with food/non food choices. Also as you progress, EF gets easier with family and friends when they see you being successful, not collapsing from feared concerns and looking all happy and healthy, so then you can attend social stuff without partaking if you choose. And yes, OMAD etc does happen - often naturally. It’s whatever you’re body is asking for.


#4

I find dinner the easiest to eat for IF and OMAD. Black coffee for breakfast and lunch. Otherwise I’m snacking all day. Fun to prepare a big dinner with family. If everyone’s on board Keto it’s much easier too. But if not we don’t have to eat the exact same thing. Everyone is weird about food these days, so nobody gives me much trouble about my diet. And if they do, I’m happy to tell them more about it than they want to know.